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Notice To Army Examiner: Stamps Used Are Not A Code

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Posted 11/24/2015   04:16 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Jenny2U to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Has anyone seen this type of notice on a cover before? Was secret information transmitted during WWII using stamps? Inquiring minds want to know

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Posted 11/24/2015   08:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


Decoded: Let's party in Nürnberg!
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Posted 11/24/2015   09:10 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ikeyPikey to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice item, Jenny!

I've never seen that, uh, user endorsement, but I can understand the sender's concern that the examiner might wonder:

Q/ Why would this soldier be sending home the envelopes from the mail he receives from home?

However, I think that Mr Smith over-thought this a bit, and should have skipped the 'not a code' bit.

He could have written: "Yeah, sure, my kid is off to war, but I'm still collecting stamps!"

Cheers,

/s/ ikeyPikey
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Posted 11/24/2015   09:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In World War II the Dutch underground sometimes wrote messages under the stamps on a letter. Maybe that is what the sender was referring to?

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Posted 11/24/2015   09:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
V-Mail was touted for its security against microdots under stamps, a method used by the Abwehr (German military intelligence) in WW II. So whether that, or the messages under stamps by the Dutch that Peter mentions, there were obviously concerns about mail being used to communicate secret messages one way or another

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Posted 11/24/2015   09:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Strange, to say the least, but perhaps the sender had difficulties in the past.

Has anyone noticed that the user endorsement seems to be pasted (?) under the front of the cover? That is, the top left of the envelope's front is missing.
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Posted 11/24/2015   10:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It looks pasted on to me. It has some transparency, and the red and blue bars on the top edge of the envelope show through.
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Posted 11/24/2015   10:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if he just sent an empty envelope (for the stamps) and didn't want it opened and labeled with a Censor sticker. Interesting, nonetheless.
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Posted 11/24/2015   11:29 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Has anyone noticed that the user endorsement seems to be pasted (?) under the front of the cover? That is, the top left of the envelope's front is missing.
KGB, looks to me like it is pasted over the cover and that nothing has been cut from the cover (I can see the red/blue airmail border all the way to the left, though just barely at the far left). He typed it on a sheet of paper, cut it out, and pasted it like a label at the upper left corner before he mailed it (notice that the cancellation marks extend over the right of the label).

Edit: the red and border at the far top left may be obscured if you are looking at the image with the dotted line around it. Click on it, and you'll see the image without the dotted line, and you can then see the red and blue border under the label all the way to the left.
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Edited by blcjr - 11/24/2015 11:31 am
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Posted 11/24/2015   11:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jenny,
Hey, neat cover. I think you ought to soak that label off there and see if there is anything underneath!

Just kidding of course.
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Posted 11/24/2015   11:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think you're all correct about the message being pasted on top. I was focused on the bottom edge which looks so much different than the top. (To me at least!)
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Posted 11/24/2015   11:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The note is glued to the front of the cover (and tied beautifully ) How interesting that messages were written under stamps!
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Posted 11/24/2015   12:07 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if he just sent an empty envelope (for the stamps) and didn't want it opened and labeled with a Censor sticker.

This would be by far the most logical explanation... if you re-read the typewritten message it says "not FOR a code" and he might have meant the censors mark and code number etc. I cannot think of any spy putting "no code here...move on, nothing to see" ... or "I promise I'm no spy so don't look under the stamps"
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Posted 11/24/2015   12:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Jenny2U to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
But just think what a great cover it would be for a spy. Sending secrets under stamps in the guise of a stamp collector requesting the stamps not be disturbed
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Edited by Jenny2U - 11/24/2015 1:02 pm
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Posted 11/24/2015   1:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add blcjr to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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But just think what a great cover it would be for a spy. Sending secrets under stamps in the guise of a stamp collector requesting the stamps not be disturbed.
What shall we make of the fact that APO 834 was in the Canal Zone, not in Europe? It would be doubly devious if our spy sent it there as a bit of misdirection, with secrets to then be passed on to the Abwehr in Germany. Lots of U-boats prowled the Caribbean you know (though not so much by 1943), once handed off to an intrepid German spy, the recipient could have been picked up by a U-boat and the secrets then radioed to the Abwehr.

Amazing how much can be read into a postal cover, right?
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Posted 11/24/2015   1:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGB to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know what secrets Mr. Smith would have to share. Perhaps the number of cans of Spam being produced at the local Hormel Plant?
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