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US Revenue Stamp With Strange Misperforation.

 
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Posted 12/10/2015   10:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add remco mouthaan to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Is this really some flaw, or did somebody kill this quite well centered revenue stamp?

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Posted 12/10/2015   11:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rwoodennickel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have read in many posts here that these were intentionally done with perf machines. Im pretty sure it did not happen during the production process. It baffles me to think someone thought it would be worth more by miss-perfing them. See many auctions touting them as errors, but I avoid them for my collection and certainly wont pay a premium. Stamp also appears to be a silk variety. It is very nicely centered, would keep it for that alone.
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Posted 12/10/2015   12:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add remco mouthaan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What a waste for this stamp it is then, pfff.

Thanks for your anwser! :).

Regards

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Posted 12/10/2015   12:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Remco, please do not be so fast with your reaction. Wait for one of the "revenuers" to chime in. Even though your stamp does have some issues, it is still beautiful and certainly worth keeping!
Groeten van een Nederlander!

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Posted 12/10/2015   1:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add remco mouthaan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Heelahola. Greetings fellow dutch collector :).

But when I look at the holes, that do not align from the side perfs, and then look at the perfectly clean holes, I have my doubts also.
On the other hand,it seems so clean it might be..but afraid some id..t just had some fun with some perf machine.

But I will wait for expert opinions.

Thanks for your thumbs up ;).

Groeten mede nederlander :).

Remco
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Posted 12/10/2015   1:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rwoodennickel to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Remco, here is a link from a previous post discussing the same topic. https://goscf.com/t/16703&SearchTer...nue,mis,perf
That stamp is definitely worth keeping as good centered revenues are harder to come by. If it is a silk variety, it might be worth more than the regular paper. Scott # would be R69c, or R69d if silk.
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Posted 12/10/2015   2:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add remco mouthaan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link, I will look at it right away.

Also thanks for the scott numbers,was already trying to check the number on the wonderfull revenue site.

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Posted 12/10/2015   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add revenuermd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I, too, look forward to our first issue experts to render an opinion. For what it is worth, there were two articles in The American Revenuer a number of years ago about these aberrant perfs authored by the late George Brett. Brett concluded that virtually all the diagonal aberrant perfs were likely the work of a New York Dealer in the 1890's and are clearly an effort to "enhance" the value of the stamp. Some of the extra rows of perfs that are parallel to the edges may in fact be legitimate. I was lucky to acquire a deed from the 1860's for a property of an ancestor of my wife that has a stamp with an extra row of perfs parallel the edge. I would be willing to bet that it is legitimate (i.e., not added at a later date). More recently there is a technical analysis of Bob Mustacich (sp?) also published in The American Revenuer. Sorting out the legitimate double perfs that are parallel to the edges may prove to be a laborious process, but it can be done.

But the bottom line for the diagonal line of perfs ending in the middle of a stamp as illustrated is that it was added later with a probability of 99.99%. George Brett opined that anyone employee, who ruined stamps with such sloppy work, would have been fired on the first day that such work was discovered.

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Posted 12/10/2015   6:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Bob Mustacich actually purchased a vintage hand perforator on ebay and compared the test perforations to the diagonal perfs observed on the first through third issue revenue stamps. He reports the results in an article in the upcoming Q4 issue of The American Revenuer.
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Posted 12/10/2015   6:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rustyc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I agree that almost all freak perfs on U.S. revenues are fake, especially the ones at crazy angles. I generally tend to avoid them. I have one stamp that I think might have legitimate extra rows of perfs because it's on the back of a photograph and looks to be genuinely cancelled with the photographer's initials.


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Posted 12/10/2015   6:51 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There was a recent article in TAR, as well as an exhibit at Chicagopex from the same author, that purported to be able to determine which "freak perfs" are legitimate vs. those that are manufactured. The jury is still out.

Personally, I consider them inferior and seek to avoid them where possible. As Ron states, this is a reversal of collecting sentiments from decades past that considered them to be a premium item.

You will still find occasional sellers that try to pump freak perfs as being worth a premium, but those are usually sellers/dealers that know nothing about 1st issue revenues.
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Posted 12/11/2015   06:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add remco mouthaan to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
So the conclusion is..its a crude attempt to create something to fool collectors. And the value is not important as it is a reversal of collecting even though tbere is some story behind it.

In other wordt, a piece of s... :).

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