Subway Brown Reprint

How is the quality of the paper, let'S say compared to new Scott Int. page. ?

Good question. I have the first volume (19th century). Hard to describe in words how the paper feels like

But let me try... To me it does not feel like heavy card/cover stock, like say a Palo or Davo page. I bought some 80lb text paper to print some Steiner pages, and it feels very similar to that. I do notice that if I use too much moisture on hinges or mounts, a "valley" forms on the reverse side of the page.

Having said that, they are still pretty nice pages.

Hope that helps

Thanks Chris

Few months ago I started a tread about a different WW album, I will come back later with this project but for now I decided to order the first part of the Subway International Vintage reprint ( Scott brown ) . If I'm satisfy, I will order the rest. My criteria were:

I want :
- 1840-1940
- Possibility to add few years for some countries
- 2 or 3 Posts Binders
- Papers album pages
- All the countries in the same album type

What I don't want:
- Plastics, protectors; they have glare
- Rings binders
- Collection with country spread on different type of album

What I like of the Subway pages is they use the same borders as the Scott Brown albums, and EzStamps AlbumGen include this border, so I can order papers cut to the same size and holes already cut from a paper company, saving a lot on blank pages to complete the years I need ( I do have few 11x17 capable laser printers )

I can have just ordered papers and modify Steiner's pages, but it's not worth the $ 700 subway ask for the complete set in time lost to modify them plus the cost of papers, toners and drums.

Scott International are my favourite binders for the look but at the cost of poor quality; they damages very easily, some time after only few weeks of usage.

I will transfer all my stamps from my Scott Int. and different others albums.
I will keep only new mints stamps in my US and Cdn Lighthouse albums.
I will post some pics after when I receive it with some completed pages.

area66,

We have the same thinking and I will likely end up going the same route. I purchased the first volume of the Vintage Reproductions from Subway. So, now I have my 19th century in two binders, my 1900-1940 in two binders (of Scott International Vol 1) and a Part II International for my 1940-1949 in another binder.

So, I have a comprehensive 19th century and a representative 1900-1949 collection in a total of 5 binders. At this point, I'm not sure if I will spend the money to purchase the rest or just keep going with what I have. I could buy a lot of stamps for the $1000 or so it would cost me to buy other 5 volumes.

I also went down the road of modifying Steiner pages and could reproduce the entire Browns if I wanted to. But, I would spend the rest of my life doing that, instead of collecting stamps

I think the Browns are a good choice for classical era WW collectors.

Be aware, though, that the stamp descriptions are fossilized (old Scott catalogue descriptions) compared to the Steiner (modern Scott catalogue descriptions).

From my "Big Blue, the "Browns", and Steiner: A three album shootout"that compares coverage of the 1867-1906 "Sphinx and Pyramid"issues of Egypt.....

http://bigblue1840-1940.blogspot.co...e-album.html

The "Browns"
http://www.subwaystamp.com/

My International Postage Stamp Nineteenth Century Album states:
"Contains spaces for every principal variety of Postage Stamp issued by any Government in the World during the Nineteenth Century"

And yes, the album cover is "brown", hence the affectionate name these volumes are known by. The complete set by Scott came in five volumes, the last for the years 1934-1938 +/-. Sometime after Scott sold the rights to these albums, a sixth volume was produced bringing the coverage up to 1940. Presently, they can be purchased on good paper printed on one side at Subway Stamp Shop Inc.

A complete set of the "Browns" will take up some shelf space, specifically 12-19 binders. Big Blue clearly wins that argument. Nevertheless, linking oneself to the great collectors of the past who used the "Browns" is hard to resist. :-)

The first issue: 1867 "Sphinx and Pyramid"

The first issue, with the Sphinx placed directly in front of the Pyramid, was issued as a 5pa orange ($10+), 10pa lilac($10+), 20pa yellow green($10+), 1pi rose red($1+), 2pi blue($10+), and 5pi brown($200+).
The first five denominations are modestly priced for classics.

The "Browns"
Naturally, the "Browns" offer a space for the entire series. So far, so good. But the description for the 20pa yellow green is "green" in the "Browns". This again highlights a problem. Based on the copyright of the Album (1919 for the Nineteenth Century album, 1939 for the Fifth volume), the Scott descriptions are fossilized.

Yes reading the descriptions means you are reading a Scott 1919 catalogue! Naturally descriptions change. My 1947 catalogue describes the 20pa stamp (major number) as "blue green" with the minor number "a" given to "yellow green". Notice that the descriptions had already changed by 1947. Today (2011), the catalogue describes the major number as "yellow green", while the minor number "a" has "blue-green". So descriptions change, stamps drop out (Colombian States-City of Cucuta anyone?), and stamps drop in ( Five blank page coverage by the 19th Century "Brown" for the Indian Native Feudatory States, while Steiner has 131 page coverage in total). Big Blue has a similar, albeit not as severe of a problem, as their descriptions were fossilized in the 1940s-1960s.

So for the "Browns", one will need to interpret the 2011 catalogue through a 1919 catalogue lens. Not impossible, but a challenge nevertheless.

Jim

Just to amuse myself, I took a look at Yvert. Egypt 10 is the 20 pa green. 10a is the 20 pa yellow-green. Turning to Gibbons, I find that Egypt 13 is the 20 pa deep blue-green, 13a is the pale blue-green and 13b is the yellowish-green.

This is the second issue, after the 1866 "Arabesques".

Geoff

JKLblue the 1917 Scott Catalogue describe the Egypt sc. # 11 as blue-green and the 11a as yellow-green. They probably make one of their numerous mistakes when they print the album. For me Scott # have 0 value, I collect stamps, especially engraved one, so what ever # or price they give I don't care. I use catalogue mainly to ID stamps. The Stamps was made between 1840-1940 , the Brown Album was design before 1940, so for me it make more sence to use catalogue from that period, I do start to collect old Catalogue, for now I have 20 SC. Catalogue between 1897 and 1940 from memory ( 1897, 1912, 1914, 1917, 1920, 1930, 1939, 1940 )


Beside if a page is problematic, I just redo it, I will have to do many as I have an intensive collection of Canadian's blocs ( my Grand Father only collected blocks)

area66,

Let us know how you like the Vintage Reproduction pages when you get them. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts and if you plan to "take the plunge" and purchase the other 5 volumes.

Chris

Also be aware that these albums will take up 10 Jumbo International binders or 14 Regular International binders!

Not exactly compact

I ordered last week and today still have no news so I send an email and here the reply. SO I cancelled and will proceed with my plan B


" am sorry but our manufacturer of these pages are waiting on the paper to make these pages.

They could be another month or more. "

Who say I want compact, actually it's quite the opposite

Just so you know those pages are always on back order at Subway because the order has to be sent out for printing. Yes, it can take a month or so to get them from Subway.

By the way, what's your Plan B?

Plan B , I receive it today and I place my first stamp in it, my next orders will be with the mounts, I order this one without to get it faster.

Palo! Nice, but you're not planning on buying all Palo albums for 1840-1940, are you?

I do have a set of Scott Int up to 1980, I'm not interested by all the countries, some like France and UK will have only the stamps that fit the Int. It's for the others that I want a little more than Scott Int have to offer.

I do already have

US and Canada and Province in Lighthouse ( and actually I already fill with duplicate my Canada Scott Int too, US in a good way )
Philippines in Minkus , but the Spanish and US admin will be transfer in my Palo
Czechoslovakia and Hungary are in Scott Speciality ( I like the CZ , but I don't know why I have Hungary )
Sweden are on Scott Int up to 1970 , after I use Steiner because I want the nice engraved modern stamps )
Russia in Minkus
Mozambique Co are now transferring in a Palo

I will need a Scott speciality or Palo for Ceylon, Chile, Costa Rice Equador and Guatemala and Mexico , up to around 1930- 50 depending on the country

The Plan A was to place all my stamp including the one in Lighthouse in brown one to have uniformity

I do also have the option to add the missing stamps by printing a page , insert it in a plastic protector make 2 new holes and use it as interleave in Scott Int. actually the plastic protector cost less than the glassines Scott sell. In the photo you can see a Steiner page in that case I print all the stamps as I have many duplicates of them. The plastics protectors are a perfect fit

That's may be the option I will choose because I'm not happy with the Palo binders, the pages are to stiff to turn, I can see a near by problem, if only they will be half a inch less high I will punch holes in them and use Lighthouse binders instead