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Spain 1855 Queen Isabella II 1R Unstamped

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Posted 02/10/2016   6:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Paul32 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In that case identifying would be enough. I probably have 100 more posts like this one and I don't want to take them out the album.
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Posted 02/10/2016   7:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pagoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Paul,

they cannot be identified without seeing both sides. A ggod scan of the front will verify if the stamp is unused or used fiscally and cleaned and a scan of the reverse to correctly identify the watermark if clear enough.

You can always rehinge it back in it's original position in the album,

Pagoda.
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Posted 02/10/2016   7:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Paul32 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I understand. Well these will have to come out anyway and moved over to the cuban pages (curious if I'll find the spanish version over there haha) so yes I'll make the scan tomorrow.
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Posted 02/10/2016   7:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Paul, whatever you do please be careful. If your grandfather used good hinges they should come off the page without any trouble. But don't try to force it off the page. If it gives just a bit of trouble coming off you may damage the stamp, and you would not want to do that! Also, I guess you know not to handle stamps with bare hands? Use tweezers instead! Good luck!

Peter
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Posted 02/11/2016   03:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pagoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Paul,

It looks like Edifil # 8, 1857 no watermark, white paper, 1r. Green.

They list is at Euro 4.70 unused and Euro 1.10 used.

It looks like no gum with a horizontal crease, value would be about 50c. if a buyer could be found,

Pagoda
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Posted 02/11/2016   03:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Paul32 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You're wrong because the watermark is obvious when you look with the light:




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Edited by Paul32 - 02/11/2016 03:22 am
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Posted 02/11/2016   03:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Paul32 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You can vaguely see the watermark on the scan as well:

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Posted 02/11/2016   03:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pagoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That makes a difference, would have helped if you had shown that before.

That makes it Edifil # 2 which catalogues at 65 Euros unused and 3 Euros used.

With the crease it would be worth $ 5.00 at the most,

Pagoda
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Posted 02/11/2016   03:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Paul32 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Which crease do you mean?
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Posted 02/11/2016   04:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pagoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Paul,

about 2/3rds. of the way down,

Also has the stamp any gum,

Pagoda
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Edited by pagoda - 02/11/2016 04:25 am
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Posted 02/11/2016   04:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Paul32 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes that's the hinge, that doesn't matter for a 1855 stamp.

Also the centering is graded very fine for a 1855 stamp according to Scott and Scott values at the grade very fine.

In my opinion it's worth full catalogue value, except perhaps for the lack of gum but I can't tell myself and is only valued "somewhat less" if there were none.
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Edited by Paul32 - 02/11/2016 04:10 am
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Posted 02/11/2016   04:19 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pagoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The crease is near the base of the stamp, not near the hinge.

Centering on imperf. stamps do not count if the stamps are imperforate, it is cut very close on the right hand side.

Gum does count, no gum almost equates to used value not mint.

I stick to my $ 5.00 estimate,

Pagoda
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Posted 02/11/2016   04:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add pagoda to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Paul,

I give up, you don't want to listen, I have been collecting almost 50 years, it looks like you started yesterday.

I won't be replying to any of your posts,

Pagoda

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Posted 02/11/2016   04:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Paul32 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please read what Scott has to say about grading pre-1900 stamps. The gum hardly counts and the centering is still very fine like this for a pre-1900 stamp.

Post 1900 you are absolutely right but not with an 1855 stamp.

That's not a crease but I understand the misconception.

I really appreciated your help though, thanks.



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