German Reich Germania 75c PFg. Purple/Red And Purple/Pink

Scott #127 sais Red Violet but doesn't distinguish any other color for the 1920 Germania 75c.

According to stampworld.com there's also a purple/pink version from 1922 with this watermark (I think corresponding with Wmk. 126 in Scott)





This version is not listed in my Scott and has a particular high catalog value of 150EUR on Stampworld. Does anyone have a good catalog beside scott and tell me what the used catalog value for this purple/pink version is?

This should help:

1920
Michel 148 I / Scott 127 -- Blackish rose lilac, Lozenge (diamond) watermark, Type I printing (poorer quality printing)
Michel 148 II / Scott 127 -- Blackish rose lilac, Lozenge (diamond) watermark, Type II printing (better quality printing)

1922
Michel 197a / Scott 169 -- Lilac carmine to dark rose-carmine, Waffle watermark (the one you posted) -- used Michel CV is €3.50.
Michel 197b / Scott 169a -- (Bright) Brownish lilac, Waffle watermark (the one you posted) -- used Michel CV is €180.

Just what I was looking for Postmaster, thanks!

This has however made things more confusing. the question now is wether my stamp is "dark pink carmine" or "Bright brownish lilac [pink lilac]".

Here is my red violet sc127 (left) and sc169 (right) which I'd describe as purple/pink myself but Michelin turns this into a challenge.




PS: older versions of Scott don't have an 169a yet.

I'm a bit confused by this. In the chart you provide, what does it mean to be a different type?

I don't understand your question KGB. It's about the 75 Pfg, you can disregard the 1.25Mk next to it.

The question now is wether the right stamp in my last post is a Michel 197a or 197b corresponding to 199 and 199a in the chart I provided.

Hovering the left germania 75Pfg on stampworld the 199a/Michel 197b highlights and as you can see mine has the identical color but Michel describing this with "Bright brownish lilac" but also calling it "pink lilac" in brackets behind it makes me confused since I find it pink lilac but not brownish at all.

Apologies, I should have been more specific.

I am wondering what 'typ'e means in the chart above where 199 and 199a are listed. One is listed as Type 038 and the next is 039.

All the stamps of the type "Germania" are assigned the letter "O" on the website followed by a number in chronical appearance, so now when you click "O38" for example it will bring up all the Germania series from 1902 to 1922. 40 different ones in total so it's easier to find out which one you have.

199 is like a scott# the 199th stamp from the german reich in chronological order and O38 means the 75 Pfg. purple carmin is the 38th germania from the germania series. It's too bad they don't always have a clear picture since the system itself is great, you can quickly compare watermarks, color and perforations of the entire serie to see wether your stamp is the right one or not.

Thank you!

When dealing with stamps where a certain shade commands a large premium the only way to verify if yours is the scarce shade is to be compare it side by side with a certified example or 2. Trying to determine shades from reference pages and scanned images is not an accurate method.

I fully agree stallzer. However I don't have one to compare of course. Judging from the link to Michel Postmaster posted and the picture on stampworld (which are often indistinguishably bad) I decided I have the Michel 197b version it being more bright than the dull 197a.

I've found some proven examples on ebay which seem to correspond but it always stays a guess...