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Uzbek Costume 60k CCCP Stamp, Perf 12 1/4.

 
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Posted 07/04/2016   10:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Robi13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I measured 11 1/2 x 11 3/4, can someone have check if my measuring is correct? Thanks






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Posted 07/05/2016   02:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What should the perforation be, according to the catalogue? Make the scan once more with the perforation gauge. That's the only way we can check.
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Posted 07/05/2016   11:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Robi13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Its in the subject of my post (12 1/4 based on the catalog).
I uploaded new image of my perf calculation, so have a look.
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Posted 07/05/2016   12:28 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is catalogued as perf 11 1/2 in SG.
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Posted 07/05/2016   2:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Robi13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, so this makes me wander if stamp world.com is trustworthy site as many out here recommended me to use? I guess not, but it does one thing perfectly, confuse you more. Have a look at the print screen from there site. Btw, your catalog is saying perf
11 1/2 with normal or chalky paper?
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Posted 07/05/2016   3:03 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Catalogues don't ordinarily show 1/4 or 3/4, they round them, except for particularly rare/complex issues. No information about paper type.
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Posted 07/05/2016   3:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Robi13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Usually they round up, which could mean this one is 11 1/2 x 12, am I right? Btw, stampworld is a total mess regarding for example Czechoslovakia 1919-1939 and mainly when talking about the wmk, and they nearly everywhere say NO WMK, which is totally wrong!

Normal / chalky paper by Cherrystone:
http://www.cherrystoneauctions.com/...60-64+Issues
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Posted 07/05/2016   3:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would definitely NOT recommend StampWord for specialist items such as perforations and watermarks. It is full of errors and omissions, some which I have informed them about.

StampWorld is good for basic stamp identification. I am sure it will improve over time, but meanwhile you are best to double check such details in the traditional catalogues such as Scott and Gibbons.
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Posted 07/05/2016   3:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Robi13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BeeSee.

Thanks a lot for your answer. I unfortunately still don't have any catalog, can you please recommend me a better site to use (until finally getting the Michel).

Regarding my question with the perf do rounding, how would your answer be in my case?


Thank you,
Robi
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Posted 07/05/2016   3:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BeeSee to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robi, Scott says the stamp is 11-1/2 x 11-1/2. The Software you use is dependent on the quality of the scan, so it is not unusual for one or more sides with slight differences. Both sides appear to line up so are probably 11-1/2.

The Cherrystone stamp is a variety that is not listed in Scott, probably only in a Russia specialist catalogue.
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Edited by BeeSee - 07/05/2016 3:59 pm
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Posted 07/05/2016   5:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Robi13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, now I understand the paper type topic. I always measure perfect 1st with my gouge, but always double check it with sw, my scanner is new and absolutely synchronized & adjusted to the sw requirements for achieving the right & correct result. Nevertheless stamps are about perfection as well as imperfections, so the rounding is something that shouldn't exist mainly when the final effect is heaven or hell! And I thought that philately is about details and finding something others ignored or didn't think of, hmmm so naive:( . It's like a normal business, it will never be a rarity and valuable until those few SOBs have it, exactly like in every high level business. Sorry for the long reply from my side.

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Posted 07/05/2016   5:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robi, stampworld is a great online catalog, but not for a specialist, a flyspecker or anyone else that wants to know more. That is why there are specialty catalogs for these things, but they are not on the web and they are not cheap. If you want to know about stamps from countries where we have members, or from most West European countries we can help. Most specialized stamps from Eastern countries are far more difficult since they are not generally collected. This is also the reason why most world wide collectors stay away from specialization - there is just too much.

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Posted 07/05/2016   6:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Robi13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Peter & BeeSee.

A big thank you for the beautiful approach you guys have, nevertheless I feel no shame to say that philately is too expensive for me in both finance & time aspects. A nice Slovak saying " you can only stretch your legs to length of your cover" and having long legs and short cover is bad combination:-)


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Posted 07/05/2016   7:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robi, I am retired and after the fiasco of 2009 I have to live more or less on a budget, so I know where you are coming from. One of the things I did is try to find something inexpensive - I have now started a specialized collection of just one series of stamps. Keeps me busy, and keeps my wife from throwing me out!

Peter
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Posted 07/06/2016   09:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add vasia to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robi,

the specialized Russian catalogue of Lyapin lists the 60k stamp as comb perf 11.5 on ordinary paper. They also mention the perf. 12.5 variety of the 60k stamp, shown by Cherrystone above, which is however extremely rare (priced at 2.500 euros)!

Btw, if you are interested in a copy of this catalogue, please e-mail me.
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Hi Vasia.

Thank you very much for your valuable reply, and I would be very grateful and thankful to have the possibility of looking into such catalog.

Robi13
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