Robin Harris Karsh / Wilding / Cameo Handbook And Wilding Sheet Sizes

Ideally I would like to buy a spiral bound copy of this but so far I have not found one for sale.

At present I am trying to find the following info for the Wilding 1 to 5 cent stamps.

1) What was the overall size of the printed sheets of the initial issues. These sheets consisted of 4 panes of 100 stamps plus the internal margins.

2) the same info for the later issues where each sheet consisted of 6 pane of 100 units.

The stamps from these later printing have wider (by about 6mm) side margins than those from the first printing and the direction of ribbing listed in Unitrade is 90 degrees different.

AQ

See:http://adminware.ca/phil_bk.htm

See:http://www.unitradeassoc.com/Stampbooks.htm

Thank

I know of those but he is selling only printed to order books unbound. I do not like the three hole option he offers as these tend to tear out very easily. I will keep looking

BTW I am still looking for the answers to the questions I originally posted

AQ

FedExOffice, Office Depot, Staples and similar office product stores can provide spiral binding at a reasonable cost.

Do they have these places in Great Britain?

Peter

There is also a BNAPS booklet on an exhibit by Robert J. Elias "Canadian Wilding and Associated High-Value Definitives: PaperTexture, Printings, Periods of Use".

There is a change from the earlier stamps having a horizontal ribbing on the front or back of the paper to the later stamps having a vertical ribbing on the front or back of the paper.

You are onto something since I can see in the pictures shown of the different corner plate blocks that the ones with vertical ribbing have larger selvage margins than those with the horizontal ribbing.

Most of this I have deduced from Unitrade and a few journals.

As far as I know the later issues with vertical ribbing, plate inscriptions at the edge of the sheets and wider side margins were printed in sheets of 6 panes each with 100 stamps per pane where as the original printings with horizontal ribbing and narrower margins were printed in sheets of 4 panes. with plate inscriptions close to the stamps. With virtually all the plate blocks I have it is impossible to see the direction of the ribbing.

The one exception appears to be the 1 cent from plate 9 which has the inscriptions away from the stamps as the later issues but the side narrower margins as the first. Was this printed from as a sheet of 4 panes? - I suspect so but cannot be sure.

The tagged stamps were printed from the 6 by 100 plates and the inscriptions in the top and bottom margins trimmed away. These margins are too wide to be printed from the earlier plates.

If any one can add to this summary I would be grateful.

AQ

You are correct about the 1 cent plate 9 which is shown with the 400 subject sheet and horizontal ribbed back description in the aforementioned above BNAPS booklet by Robert J. Elias. The book that you are looking for by D. Robin Harris may still be available from Unitrade stamp supplies.

AQ, I have the Harris book, but I am not exactly sure what you are looking for. Are you looking for the physical size in inches or MM?

Yes. I was hoping to find some info on the overall size of the sheets before they were trimmed (if they were) and cut into panes to supply to the post offices.

Also the layout of the panes in the 6 up format, was it 2 across by three down or 3 across by 2 down. I assume that these stamps were printed as single sheets (I may be wrong. I do not know when continuous web printing was introduced.) So any info on that as well.

I also assume that for the second issues the paper was fed into the press at 90 degrees to the first issue to explain the change in rotation of the ribbing.

Was the same press used fro both issues ?.

As you can see there are a lot of questions and I do not have many answers yet.

AQ

AQ, in simplicity, there were two sheet formats. The first was 2 x 2 panes, trimmed into 4 before delivery. These were all ribbed horizontally.

The second was 3 across, 2 down but ribbed vertically. These were also cut (into 6) before delivery.

It gets more complicated with the 4 pane sheets as there are different positions of the plate inscriptions, some blank, some with control numbers, also different trim widths on the outer margins.

However, there is no physical measurements of the sheets.

If you need more information, let me know.

Thanks
I have not heard of the different positions of the plate inscriptions on the 4 pane sheets. I thought that these all had the plate inscriptions printed adjacent to the stamps and also with the control numbers in the LL corner. The only exception being the 1 cent plate 9 as I mentioned above
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Can you answer the following ?. So far I have not found any definitive info. I guess I have missed it as it must be out there.

Were the 4 pane sheets printed singularly or as a continuous web

Were the 6 pane sheets printed singularly or as a continuous web

AQ

What I mean about the position is that some of the top and bottom inscriptions are further away from the stamps. Also some have the control number, while others were cut off.

As for the printing method I do not think it is mentioned. When I get back home I will check.

I may have a copy of this, spiral bound; I'd need to check my holdings but am pretty sure I do.

If the OP wants to, please contact me offline, thanks.

They were done on a sheet-fed intaglio rotary press that printed on pre-gummed dry sheets of paper.

Thank you for that information

AQ