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5000 Korona 1923 Patron Saint Of Hungary, Is There A Difference?

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Posted 07/16/2016   01:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Robi13 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message


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Posted 07/16/2016   06:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robi, as with one of my previous comments, it's beat of you have these mint to examine the differences, or you look at them under a UV lamp for differences in fluorescence. Green is a notorious colour for having subtle differences. You may have two different printings but I'll let any Hungarian expert comment. What I think you have is a reaction of the green colour to sunlight or water, or maybe both.
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Posted 07/16/2016   06:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Galeoptix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robi,

2 colours were used to print the stamps and in the second stamp you can see a shift to the top which is not there in the first stamp!

Used stamps are MUCH better for establishing differences in the production; mint stamps have gum arabic that prevents you from seeing a lot of interesting things!!

Make always sure that the stamps are not damaged and when cancelled clean them to get rid of all gum and paper remnants!

Keep up the spirit! Definitives have som any surprises for us "in petto" that are not yet discovered by collectors who only consult their Scott [or Yvert, or Michel..] :)

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Posted 07/16/2016   08:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Again, and always, nothing with value here.


Will not say the same if you have 1 of the most wanted Hungarian stamps


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Edited by area66 - 07/16/2016 08:03 am
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Posted 07/16/2016   09:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Robi13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Galeoptix,

Thanks a lot, I do very much like your answers, because it makes me think and look at the stamp in a different way.

Robi.

@area66, thank you for replying, nevertheless I don't agree with you. Stamps are just as Beautiful or complicated as the person who they belong to, so we have a huge value from this forum, sharing thoughts, some even knowledge and we are communicating. It's enough for me.

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Posted 07/16/2016   10:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well on the other post you show US 2 different 7 kr revenue stamps, one from one from 1868 to 1879 ( you mess up with the watermark so hard to say ) and another from 1891 , so 2 different stamps , so no error that will give more value

On this post you show exactly the same stamps, the only error know is the inverted I show

Now here an example of a difference than make a stamps more collectable and give a value of $ 50 to a 25 cents stamps

This is from a collection I purchase ( I don't collect error , it was in the collection ) , my point is stop to think you will find valuable stamps in whatever you get your stamps You show us your Hungarian collection, this is not a collection, it's left over of a collection, you will not find anything valuable in this kind of purchase. The peoples who get those stamps before you get everything good in the lot






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Edited by area66 - 07/16/2016 11:05 am
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Posted 07/16/2016   10:52 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
When I say they are worthless is because I will never give a single cents for them, anyone who collect Hungary probably have 3,4, 10 duplicates of them.
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Posted 07/16/2016   12:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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nevertheless I don't agree with you. Stamps are just as Beautiful or complicated as the person who they belong to


who you really try to foul here, I'm one of the few on this forum who collect stamps because we like and not for their values

everyone know you are hunting for rare stamps

here a short list of few of your treads title, all with the word value or rarity, even in a cover with Saddam Hussein and find some variation on QE II Machins


Guys, what do you think? I believe I have got a quite rare cancel... but I could be wrong.
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anyone seen a STRIP of 4 from those in my post, does this STRIP have a different c# & cv?
Modern Austria stamps - Is there a special catalog # or value for a block of 10? Thanks
Any idea about the value of them would be very much appreciated.
anyone seen a STRIP of 4 from those in my post, does this STRIP have a different c# & cv?


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Edited by area66 - 07/16/2016 12:31 pm
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Posted 07/16/2016   12:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Robi13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Area66,
Thank you for your replay, I can take a feedback and work with it but it has to be constructive and not destructive. I'm not going to comment your reply where you evaluate me, my posts or telling me what I have to stop doing etc. I will rather just say, asking for opinion, info or value of a stamp doesn't mean that the person thinks she/he has got the most expensive one. Your replays to my posts ( which btw I believe there is no magic or spell in them, that is forcing you to reply to them) give me the impression that you're taking my posts to a personal level, which doesn't make me or anybody else in my place happy.

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Posted 07/16/2016   2:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Galeoptix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Areacode,

the best stamps I ever got hold of - and they are not necessarily of great value - are the stamps NOBODY else cared for since they appeared in NO catalogue - not even in ANY handbook before.

About two months ago I discovered several Polish official service stamps that had not been mentioned in any Polish stamp catalogue nor handbook. The present authors of the Polish Handbook had to agree that generations of philatelists had overlooked these stamps since 1950!

pozdrawiam, Rein
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Posted 07/16/2016   2:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Galeoptix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
After WWII Polish official stamps had been printed in Kraków by the Drukarnia Narodowa in photogravure first but then the production moved on to Warszawa. Two denominatiions were printed in offset-litho first in Warszawa, one a bit later in photogravure as well by the PWPW [State Printers].

For some strange reasons NO Polish catalogue has ever mentioned the offset-litho printed stamps!



The one in the middle had been printed in Kraków in photogravure with an imprint at the bottom!


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Posted 07/16/2016   3:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Galeoptix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The two offset-litho stamps:



Already found in the Michel Europa 1967:



Odr = Offset-litho printing
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Posted 07/17/2016   12:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Robi13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rein,

From what I read in the link in your reply (for which I thank you) I can say only two things, congratulation & well done. Btw, attached is one of my favorite stamps and its polish one too, Sailboat 20gr from 1926 and it has got 3 verys: very nice/simple to remember, very hard to not like and very small finance value, which makes it the best stamp for me :-))) .


Robi

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Posted 07/17/2016   08:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This one also is hard to not remember and for bonus it's engraved



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Posted 07/17/2016   6:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Robi13 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Area66,

I definitely agree with you, very nice one.


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