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Where are the errors please? The ones you show are not errors, just printing oddities. They may be nice in a specialists' collection but not worth much.
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| Edited by Petert4522 - 07/18/2016 08:27 am |
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Quote: Where are the errors please?  First error oveprint (and they are signed by someone because of that on the back) Second - commons are imperf. |
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The pope, the 'imperforated" one is only imperforated on one side. That could be because it is the edge of the sheet or maybe it was a booklet stamp. As I said above, the shifted overprint may be of interest to a specialist but adds no value to the stamp. Most collectors stay away from those!
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Quote: The pope, the 'imperforated" one is only imperforated on one side. That could be because it is the edge of the sheet or maybe it was a booklet stamp. As I said above, the shifted overprint may be of interest to a specialist but adds no value to the stamp. Most collectors stay away from those! I opened this topic for some serious expert/collector/specialist with knowledge about this Slovakia war-time stamps to help me. And You asked me where do I see errors  . And now You write that overprint errors "adds no value to the stamp"  Tens and tens of thousands of this stamps is bought by me, thousands was in my hands and I see errors here. And Yes, I know that they cost, but dont know how much and how rare they are because I"m not Slovakia specialist. Guess they are not too common because not too many in my tens and tens of thousands Slovakia wartime stamps. |
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Oh, You edited Your first replay /Edited by Petert4522/ after I quoted and replayed on it and told You where the error is. Yes I agree it was dilettante and should be edited.  |
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Hi.
I will ask my two friend about your SK stamps (they collect SK and Cz too) and will come back to you hopefully by tomorrow the latest. They look good, and usually the SK local patriots collect them. Can you send me the name of the guy (signature on the back)?
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It's written in every catalogue
The 10h stamps are news paper stamps and as many CZ news papers stamps they was issued non perforated and private company, postmaster and customers was perforating them themselves
So you purchase thousands of worthless stamps, enjoy them
Same with overprint, those stamps come poor countries , so the control quality was what it was.
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| Edited by area66 - 07/18/2016 2:37 pm |
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Quote: Hi.
I will ask my two friend about your SK stamps (they collect SK and Cz too) and will come back to you hopefully by tomorrow the latest. They look good, and usually the SK local patriots collect them. Can you send me the name of the guy (signature on the back)?
Robi Thank You very much. I cant detect the name on the back.... |
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The names on the back wouldn't be there if it is a common, cheap stamp. |
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Quote: Same with overprint, those stamps come poor countries , so the control quality was what it was. Thank You for the info. But would like to hear second opinion, some Slovakia specialist or collector if any here. As historian must quote. Some other countries were very rich during the Great Depression? Also, common Slovakia WWII period stamps arent worthless, I earn a lot of money on them. Guess friendly Slovakia people collect them and its a good fact. I like that stamps too, because they represent the great Slovakia history. Croatia is "poor" country and was "poor" during the WWII,as many European countries, but Croatian stamp was the most beautiful stamp according to UPU for 1943. If croatian stamps from 1941-1945. were for example Third Reich stamps, many of them would cost hundreds/thousands of dollars catalogue value. |
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Quote:here is a quite good info for both SK & CZ, the stamp is Mi # 8 as well as in pofis, its in Czech language, but you can switch to English I think http://www.tomfijala.cz/Slovensko/index/main2.htm Thanks Robi. Interesting page. But can read it, dont see how can switch to english. I know what common stamps are, just asking for thestamps error value estimation. Edit: I can read it on czech language (Slavic language)  . But no info. about this errors and sign on the back. |
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| Edited by The_Pope - 07/18/2016 3:20 pm |
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First, the overprinted 50h. This was issued in 1939 & both Scott & Michel catalogue it at 20c/20euro cents.
HOWEVER. Scott states "Excellent counterfeit overprints exist", whereas Michel states "...gibt es Neudrucke...", that is "there are reprints".
SO - the signature on the back would imply that the overprints are originals & not the counterfeit/reprints. Still only worth 20cents each even though some are shifted. You would have to have the overprint shifted so much that two partial overprints are visible before they would be worth anything. A similar case would be the Polish infla overprints of 1923-24 which are of the same cataloge value, but seriously shifted overprints as I've described are only valued at about $5.
The Newspaper stamps are interesting. The original print without watermark issued in 1939 are worth about $1, whereas the 1940-41 printing with watermark are down to 20cents.
As already mentioned, though, these were issued IMPERF. & as Michel mentions, these were privately perforated explaining why one of your copies is imperf on one side only, if it's a stamp from the edge of the sheet there is no point in perforating that side.
I have no idea how much privately perforated stamps of this issue are worth. Similarly priced Polish stamps are the Destroyed Warsaw issue of 1946 which were issued imperf but also privately perforated. The problem is PROVING that they were perforated at the time & not recently & the only way to do that is to have the stamp on piece with a contemporary cancel, or better still, on cover. In this case the Fischer Polish catalogue prices them at about $2 on piece & about $13 on cover.
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Quote: The names on the back wouldn't be there if it is a common, cheap stamp. Pure speculation without facts to support it, actually I will never write anything on expensive stamps Quote: SO - the signature on the back would imply that the overprints are originals & not the counterfeit/reprints That's invent more speculation , what tell you it's not written fake at the back ? the OP want expert info, but can't provide a good scan, so we can read what is written at the back As fat as I can say it can be anything written at the back |
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| Edited by area66 - 07/19/2016 07:06 am |
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Actually it's not invention nor speculation. It's a Proofers Signum on the back of the 50h stamps & it's printed in accordance with the Proofers Code as to how to apply signums. Looking at the back we see the signum on the left & reading upwards which is correct for a mint perforated stamp. Here's a scan from the latest Polish Fischer catalogue to illustrate. I have indicated the appropriate drawing.  I don't know who the Proofer is in this case but I'm sure a Slovakian collector would be able to help. IF the stamp or overprint is a forgery then that is indicated with a mark stating 'Falsum', 'F', 'Falsch', or something similar, usually across the middle with the Proofers signum crossing that This is how the eminent German-Polish Proofer Heinz Erwin Jungjohann does it  |
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