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Posted 07/26/2016   5:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ringo to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
People who do the work and own the fruits of their labour, yes I can understand if they want a return for their efforts. I don't begrudge them that.

What I can't comprehend is when someone else unrelated wishes for fees. Surely it's better for everyone if things are freely available from those happy to give. I've built several websites - they're free for anyone to use. What's the issue? The more free stuff around, the better. Which answers the original question - why make it free? So that all people can benefit from it. It's a positive thing.
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Posted 07/26/2016   5:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Positives things, mostly all web sites are crap when you want specialise information. Peoples are not interested to publish specialised book because they don't sell. If stampworld is the way peoples see the future in philatelic references, we have a huge problem. It's same with other hobby, only 1 person publish something specialised in fishkeeping since 20 years.

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Posted 07/26/2016   7:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sdtom to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps it is time to begin listing all the books on this site. Not up to me of course but an idea
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Posted 07/26/2016   8:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I already started a tread about specialized
Catalog few months ago . And I purchase all the one I have not yet. You get what you pay for your money. Free stuff on the web are so incomplete and often just copy and paste
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Edited by area66 - 07/26/2016 8:42 pm
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Posted 07/26/2016   10:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's great if you have a philatelic specialist society/organization and/or philatelic supply/accessory outfit printing, publishing, distributing and selling your specialized philatelic work as some have while others do not have the same advantage and privilege.
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Posted 07/27/2016   01:06 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scb to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Peoples are not interested to publish specialised book because they don't sell. If stampworld is the way peoples see the future in philatelic references, we have a huge problem.


Specialized books/knowledge does sell, but what is faces is the volume question: general collectors outnumber the specialists by 1:1,000 (possibly even 1:10,000). And the more specialized the stuff, the fewer it will interest. This is why print runs of most specialized books and publications are as low as they are (25-250 copies). And that is sadly where it also comes down to financials and the insanity of self-publishing.

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Posted 07/27/2016   03:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 65170 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Area 66: My bookseller is currently offering more than 60 books on fish-keeping in the English language, and all appear to have been published in the past 20 years and, to a non-fish expert, appear quite specialised to me.

scb: I suggest that there are more specialised books on philately being published today than in all of history and self-publishing has helped enormously in this increase in output. I am unclear where the "insanity of self-publishing" comes in. Print runs are low, it is true, and 25-250 copies is probably about right. I have always said that books on brain surgery will not be printed in a run of a million copies, but those who buy these books are generally grateful to the author for expanding their knowledge.
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Posted 07/27/2016   12:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add danstamps54 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There's another option to publishing houses and self-publishing, print-on-demand (POD).

You would be surprised how much specialized information is printed in this manner. A POD book is indistinguishable in quality from a traditionally published book.

The downside is that the author must edit, format and do the other mechanical things involved with publishing.

The upside is that it is very inexpensive. Depending on the book (black and white/color), the size of the book and binding desired, a book can be published for under $50. If the book is in the proper format, it gets an ISBN number and can be listed on Amazon, Barnes & Noble and Ingram for purchase. Royalties per book sold can be set by the author.

I toyed with the idea of creating a small publishing company to make old, specialized and scarce philatelic books available again using POD. The time and hassles of copyrights didn't make it feasible for me.

Dan


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Posted 07/27/2016   5:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
We live in a world where no one purchase book. So we have to purchase very expensive sometime obsolete book at high price

here a good example, wt $ 300 I will already have purchase it, but $ 800

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cancellatio...em2ee47be0db
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Posted 07/27/2016   5:40 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 07/27/2016   6:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
GeoffHA...thankksssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss a lot

ordered


but seem I will wait a long time





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Posted 07/27/2016   6:31 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Je vous en prie.
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Posted 07/27/2016   6:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I purchased a lot of aquarium books on Abebook , never have a problem and it's usually cheaper than Amazon
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Posted 07/27/2016   6:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
To come back on the subject

Books cost a lot, research material cost a lot, they should have a solution to help peoples to continue to make informative references and get a little paid to at least cover expenses to continue to make more reference work. And giving it for free is not the solution. I don't believe free is good, yes it's good for the one who don't pay, but at the end someone as to pay, so it as to be the one who help ?



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Posted 07/27/2016   7:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I don't believe free is good, yes it's good for the one who don't pay, but at the end someone as to pay, so it as to be the one who help ?


I'd answer your question but that would be giving away information for free.
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