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Another Scott 596 For Your Consideration

 
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Posted 08/03/2016   9:57 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Sutton to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I noticed the subject of the Scott 596 is an active subject.....so I just had to submit mine for public opinion:
Post marked Feb. 1926, a couple of one cent Franklins, perf. 11x11, and the dimensions of 19.25x22.25mm:










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Posted 08/03/2016   10:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sutton to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Crap, The 3rd photo with the 19.25mm measurement obviously slipped on me.....didn't notice that before submission.
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Posted 08/04/2016   1:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HungaryForStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Read the many posts that already exist about US 596. You'll find a lot if you just search for "596" in the US classics forum. For example,

https://goscf.com/t/48970&SearchTerms=596

This one will show the color and cancel is wrong:

https://goscf.com/t/50077&SearchTerms=596
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Posted 08/04/2016   2:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sutton to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the input.......

So I guess I'm looking at a #552?
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Posted 08/04/2016   2:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You might want to try this link for identifying and learning more about US stamps.
http://www.stampsmarter.com/1847_landing.html br / Don
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Posted 08/04/2016   3:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add HungaryForStamps to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Also look at the date of the cancellation. Looks like 1923? Check the site Don suggested above and look at 1922 Franklins and check the dates.
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Posted 08/04/2016   3:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think it is actually 1926 as seen here

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Posted 08/04/2016   4:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add chasa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sutton: you are using the wrong part of the gauge to spot rotary press stamps. Use the diagonal hairlines to verify the stamp is TALL enough for a SC596. It should be at least as tall as this picture. I suspect it will be NOT tall enough - they look like 552's.



A 596 will have the same basic dimensions as a 632 that my picture is.
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Posted 08/04/2016   9:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sutton to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again for the input and links...
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Posted 08/05/2016   4:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DaveG28 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm fascinated with the inquiries that come about #596. It seems to be the holy grail around here. So please...could I have a little background about this stamp? All I really know for sure is that it is perf 11 horizontally and vertically. How many of them are out there? Should I bother checking the perf on every green 1c Franklin I come across?
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Posted 08/05/2016   5:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JLLebbert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The last count I saw was 13 used copies of 596. I think all of them are precanceled, but I could be wrong. And no mint copies whatsoever.
Added: Just checked & discovered I was wrong about all 596 being precanceled. 8 are precanceled while 5 are not. Latest sales price that I saw for one of these was $190,000.
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: I see from Clark's link that there are now 14 used copies with 9 precanceled.
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Posted 08/05/2016   6:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cfrphoto to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
All of the known precancelled examples are Kansas City, Mo., all caps on two lines. See the Siegel Census: https://siegelauctions.com/display_...s.php?id=236

In addition to being a perf 11 tall rotary, perforated on a flat plate perforator, 596 has a distinctive shade matching Scott 581. Few if any of the later perf 11 x 10 1/2 Scott 632 are the same dull green. Most are a brighter green or a yellow green. Also, the top and bottom perforations produced by the rotary press bar perforator will be aligned between the top and bottom of the stamp. It is clear from the image from the OP that the stamps were Scott 632 with no possibility of being anything better. Scott 552, the perf 11 flat plate stamp is a deeper, more saturated green without the dull look of the early rotary press stamps.
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Posted 08/07/2016   10:36 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Who is the current expert on U.S. Stickney rotary press printed stamps?
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Posted 09/12/2017   11:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
cfrphoto: Your links are very interesting and informative. I think that the Mystic link article is incorrect with the following since the Stickney press used the wet printing method: "Because of his apparent talent, Stickney was given a challenge no one else had mastered. Although some of the greatest minds had tried and several hundred thousand dollars had been spent, no one had been able to develop an effective dry printing method. Stickney had an idea, but the BEP lacked the money to build a prototype. Finally, the Post Office Department helped out – and the result was amazing."
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