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Yes Valdpete you can explain to me what is South Russia , I am new to this . To clear this a little bit ,Scott Catalog lists the Denikin issues as South Russia issues ,so I wasn't wrong on that point . The EDINAJA ROSSIJA {sp. in English as EDINAYA ROSSIYA }are the UNITED RUSSIA are the same as the DENIKIN issues .Scott Catalog explains them as Gen. Denikin ,People's Volunteer Army Here is my album page for South Russia
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Hi floortrader,
There are two different territories represented on this page:
- The first three rows are from the Cossack government in the Don territory.
- The other four rows are from the Cossack government in the Kuban territory.
The red 1 rouble stamp in the second last row is an interloper. It's a bogus overprint (supposedly from Novocherkassk).
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Hi valdpete,
If I were you I would not focus so much on the inscriptions but look to understand the different countries/armies/districts that issued the stamps. |
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Hi nigelc,
you are right, the primary criterium is countries/armies/districts as per catalogs, names on stamps are prefered to various currency overprints. |
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Hi floortrader,
regarding South Russia it is important to distinguish between geographic and philatelic terms. While geographically it is mostly in Asia - between Korea and Azerbaijan, philatelically it is entirely in Europe - between Georgia and Moldova. Including South Ukraine.
As nigelc explained, they are various armies issues during the russsian civil war. Scott lists them mixed together and is philatelically right, so are you. Just Scott is not the best ww stamps catalog for ASFE or ww collectors. Minkus used to be much better, excellent was Lipsia, but neither of them is published any more. So I would recommend Michel for Europe and Gibbons for overseas.
But back to the updated 780 ASFE list. I have split South Ukraine between Jug Rossii, Edinaja Rossija, Don, Kuban and Krym in accordance with Michel catalog.
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Hi cjd, Quote: Is there an existing list for classic-era ASFE? 1840-1940? I do not think so, but it would be rather easy to create it, simply deleting after 1940 ASFE. Just as pre 1940 ASFE are probably more than 99% of value, it would be not practical to skip remaining 1% in the collections. For practical reasons I can imagine spliting between dead and existing ASFE. Beginners sometimes do and collect only existing ASFE. Which would be a matter of one evening for advanced collectors, but as a starter collection not so absurd. |
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Nigelc---Thanks for that additional breakdown on the South Russia page . I added notes to that page .
Jug Rossii --- translate to South Russia
I use Scott Catalog as my main reference and will sub-divide off of their format.
Valdpete ---I am a worldwide stamp collector not any kind of expert .I just took my collection a lot further than most people understand . |
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Floortrader - I understand that living in USA you use Scott catalog. Myself, I started too as a worldwide collector. I changed to ASFE in 1968, but continue many dead countries, especially omnibus issues. We can discuss details and cooperation "after I reach 50 posts".
Do you collect precancels, too ? Excellent ASFE items - many and cheap. |
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Floortrader - regarding South Prussia. It is analogy to Thurn Taxis and Norddeutscher Postbezirk. Different currencies for north and south. |
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EdziuMM Quote: my "Gazetteer Collection" of worldwide town cancels, which totals 70,000+ at the moment. There are 2 types of town cancels, similar to Canada precancels - with name and with town postal code. Do you accept both as towns? |
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Penguins Quote: instead of collecting one stamp from as many countries as possible I decided to make it one (or more) booklet(s). As far as I know, there is only one country that issued booklets, but no loose stamps - Idar. Hence ASFE collectors usually collect either whole booklets, or booklet panes. Some do covers, too. |
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Valdpete, I haven't been ignoring you -- I have just been preoccupied lately. My "Gazetteer Collection" ideal is getting the name of the town in the postmark, but, as a space filler, I will keep the postal-number version until I can get the name. Don't have many of those postal-number ones, though. Your quoting my claim of having "70,000+" leads me to set the record straight. It turned out to be a premature claim. I recently became suspicious of my tallying and did a very careful count. Turned out that what is in that collection at the moment is 69,912. Close, but not as much as my boastful claim. |
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Regarding South Russia and other complicated areas, you might check out my transition charts. They help understand (at least visually) how the nations of a region changed over time. This is especially helpful during times of rapid change, such as the Russian Civil War. http://www.dcstamps.com/regional-transitions/For this one, check out Ukraine and South Russia. Hope this is helpful |
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