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Greaden, collecting the last stamp of a dead country is a challenge similar to collecting the first stamp - how to decide which is the last one? Different catalogs would provide different stamps.
To collect any stamp per ASFE is challenging enough. |
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Floortrader - to determine ASFE I use stamp catalogs and stamp atlases. Hence both South Prussia and South Russia will stay on the list.
Strange, I do not get answers to this thread to my email address automatically, I must always browse. Neither I can contact you direct to discuss, as I undertand you are extremely experienced, just with a little different ASFE criteria. |
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@valdpete: You have to have 50+ (quality) posts in order to directly message other members.
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Hi valdpete,
I had a quick look at the entries for Crete in your ASFE list as this is my main collecting area:
- Crete (RF) - Crete (KUK) - Crete (Ott) - Therison - Crete (GR)
I'm not sure what all these refer to.
- I guess Crete (RF) is the French Post Offices in Crete.
- I guess Crete (KUK) refers to the Austro-Hungarian French currency stamps as listed in Scott and Michel although they were not specifically for use in Crete.
- Does Crete (OTT) refer to the stamps of the autonomous Cretan state (1900-1913) which was still nominally Ottoman?
- Therison is the Revolutionary Assembly propaganda stamps.
Does Crete (GR) refer to the German Inselpost stamps issued in World War II in Crete?
I suggest you add at least three more categories:
- Crete (GB) for the stamps of the British Administration in Irakleion
- Crete (RU) for the stamps of the Russian Administration in Rethymno
- Crete (IT) for the stamps of the Italian Post Offices in Crete
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Hi nigelc, excellent reaction. A sample pictures of Crete (Ott) and Crete (GR) are in enclosure, Hereklion (Crete GB), Rethymno (Crete R) and La Canea (Crete It) are in the list, see positions 30, 49 and 125.   German Inselpost is not in the list, as considered "too local" and does not match criteria of Stamp atlas. So it is on my list of local stamps... |
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Thanks for clearing all that up. A picture tells a thousand words. It's always nice to see stamps from Crete.  The two stamps you show are both from the autonomous Crete state. The ELLAS overprint was just a political wish not a statement of fact. I would suggest removing Crete (GR) from your list. |
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You could possibly make a case for the Greek "Raising the Flag at Souda" stamp of November 1913 as "Crete (GR)" as it was a regular Greek stamp but was only sold on the island of Crete. |
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Valdpete ----I was posting about South Prussia not South Russia . South Prussia existed before postage stamps ,so no postage stamp is possible . On South Russia here is a page from one of my albums .  |
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nigelc - Souda would be perfect, so for sure no reason for deleting. Nevertheless, for ASFE Slovakia is valid one more criterium - name on stamps creates ASFE. |
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dkabq8 - my concern was, that I have received the message from floortader neither via scf email, though I am incscribed for this thread, nor direct from him, though he is entitled to contact me direct. |
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floortrader - sorry for mixing South Prussia and South Russia. As said, both remain on my updated 780 ASFE list. Thank you for the scan, nice, but you published Edinaja Rossija from your collection (which is also on the ASFE list), I wrote about Jug Rossii overprint.  Why don`t you write me direct as you obviously can? It is already the 3rd case I have disagreed with your comments. I understand you are extremely knowledgeable about ASFE and from our public messages can be the less knowledgeable collectors rather confused. I would explain you what is South Prussia on the updated 780 ASFE list, too. |
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Valdpete. You must have 50 posts before anyone can contact you. Both parties must have 50 posts or more. |
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ajuchum - you wrote your ASFE stamps should be at least 10 USD catalog value not to look cheap. The problem is most 10 c and 10 USD stamps look the same. ASFE value is independent from catalog value. The example I use is Chorezm. Catalog value 0.50 RUB, which was that time perhap 0.30 USD, real ASFE value 3000 USD. Most cases are vice-versa = high catalog value and minimum ASFE value.  In other words - it is not important which stamp you have, but from which ASFE. Practically all stamp from an ASFE have the same ASFE value. |
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redwoodrandy - you say minumum 50, floortrader has over 3000 posts, hence perfectly qualified |
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redwoodrandy - sorry, I see it is me who is not qualified yet. A rather strange criterium, as the addressee should not be taken into account in this respect. Nevertheless, I try to learn the rules.... |
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