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Why was this returned for verification endoresement? It went Singapore and back or what? I'm Confused :)  *** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
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| Edited by kachidousa - 08/30/2016 10:21 am |
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I interpret the marking to mean "Returned to the carrier to apply any address change for proper forwarding or returning it to the sender", since the carrier would be the one who would know best about the location of his current patrons and their current travel instructions.
It would be useful to see the back side, if it has any additional markings.
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O.K. Thanks for trying forum.... Should I go to another forum and try , not being mean. I just didnt get any answers here. Thanks.. |
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Perhaps you should give it a day or two before making a judgment on the forum. Don |
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That's an odd cover. It looks like it spent several weeks in the US before departing (the original postmark is in December, and it appears that extra postage was added on January 23) before going to Singapore, Penang, and Port Said. The "carrier endorsement" marking looks to be American, and perhaps it relates to a question about the intended service of the item since an airmail stamp was used (no airmail service was available anywhere on this route at the time, to my knowledge, since it was mailed from New York). The use of the C3 and the coil pair suggests philatelic intent. |
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I didnt mean to make you mad my dude.. It will be O.K. I promise :).... Anyway so it was sent to singapore and back for a correction or verification and the stamps used was incorrect? O.K. Im laughing not at you guys but Im am more confused..Thanks
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O.K. Thanks so much didnt mean to make people mad sorry guys I still love you... For real I love the sites.and stamps are a true love.... I see on the back it also has a Mar stamp..why so long to get back home?...Thanks again... I really dont like the cover but I was just interested in the routes...Ill throw it with the others... |
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I hesitate to respond since the OP is not being very friendly or patient, but this cover went from New York to Singapore by boat where it missing connecting with the addressee. Then it was forwarded to Penang, Malaysia which is a city on the northwest coast of Malaysia, perhaps trying to catch up with the addressee. It could have gone by either land or boat from Singapore to Penang - I do not know which would have been faster. Apparently it missed the addressee there as well and was forwarded again by boat to Egypt where it first went to Port Said, and apparently missed the recipient there and so it was forwarded to Alexandria where it missed him there as well. Finally it was forwarded by boat to a different recipient in New York. I think that John's thought that the "Returned for Carrier Endorsement" marking looks American is most likely, and my guess is that the US post office applied that marking when it finally returned to New York and at that time it wrote in red pencil an alternate recipient - William H. Tweddell and Co. for final delivery. An alternate possibility might be that this marking and new addressee might have been applied in Alexandria.
The reason why it took so long for this cover to get to its final destination in New York is two-fold. First, it went by boat around the world and would have had to have waited at the various ports along its way for the next mail carrying ship going to the destination. Such ships do not leave every day - sometimes they are once a week or even less frequent. The second reason is that undeliverable mail often winds up sitting in a post office for a while until someone gets around to deciding what to do with the letter. The dates on this cover seem quite reasonable when you think of all of this. |
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I will clarify slightly. My first post near the very beginning was made before the original post was edited to include the addition of the reverse side image. The title line asks about "returned to sender for verification", which I took solely as a question about the meaning of the auxiliary mark - having no idea of the plethora of reverse-side postmarks at that time. I mentally rephrased the question since there was no evidence the envelope actually ever returned to the sender (but only to the carrier), and nowhere was the word "verification" used. Agree wit Kimo, it does look like an American auxiliary marking. I did not try further analysis, seeing only the front. |
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Looking back at this cover again in light of another thread, it's faked. Another Mariners Harbor marking that now looks out of period (possible USPS at bottom) and cancels inexplicably used stamps for no identifiable rate purpose.
This one is a shame, because the underlying cover (including the Singapore, Penang, and Port Said markings) is genuine and had some actual value (maybe $20-$25).
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