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Csa Fake On Ebay - FYI

 
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Posted 09/05/2016   2:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jamesw to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Found this crude CSA forgery on ebay with 2 bids.
You know I like forgeries, but the seller seems to be auctioning this as legitimate. I've emailed him but no response.

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/US-Stamp-186...351829567967

Don't be fooled! Perhaps these bidders know it is not real, I'd certainly bid on it myself, if the price doesn't go too high. But I hate to see sellers misinforming buyers.
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Posted 09/06/2016   3:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps it would be more enlightening if you were to say why you think (or know) this is a forgery.
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Posted 09/06/2016   6:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Still 2 days to bid !

James, can you explain what CSA means......another Acronym for my list
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Edited by Renden - 09/06/2016 6:53 pm
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Posted 09/06/2016   7:12 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jarnick to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
CSA is one of the few acronyms I know. Confederate States of America.
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Posted 09/06/2016   7:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ekbustad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
CSA = Confederate States of America. But I do not know enough about their stamps to be able to say if or why this is a fake.
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Posted 09/06/2016   9:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ok, fair enough. Guess I was kinda vague. Thanks Ekbustad and jar nick for the CSA definition. Yes it is the Confederate States of America.

The best way is to compare the stamp with a known example. Easily you could look at other CSA #4s (thats the Scott's number) on ebay or elsewhere on line.
But I'll compare it to my own copy of a CSA #4 Stone 2. How do you know YOURS is authentic, you'll ask. I'm no expert by any means, but a close examination of images online of known examples tells me this its most likely real. Also when I first acquired this stamp (on the left in the image below), I sent a picture of it to Dr John Kimbrough, a highly respected CSA expert in Texas, and Dr Kimbrough very kindly and generously looked at my stamp and confirmed it was legitimate. Not a true 'expertizing' but good enough for me.

So look at the two stamps in the image below, authentic on the left, ebay fake on the right, and I expect, and hope it should be very clear that the sample on the right is a very crudely drawn replica. I could go over a number of points, the different serifs on the S in CENTS, the broader shapes of the swirls in the bottom corners, or the difference in the shapes and curve of the word POSTAGE.



But mainly, look at the portrait of Jefferson Davis. That's NOT the same guy! The drawings are completely different, the rendering on the portrait on the fake much cruder and poorly executed.

And if you can't take my word for it, check out the website of another expert Trish Kaufmann. On her page 'Crude Forgeries', this stamp can be seen, printed in green, on the bottom row, second from left.

http://www.trishkaufmann.com/images...rude.jpg.jpg
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Edited by jamesw - 09/06/2016 9:18 pm
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Posted 09/07/2016   08:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks to all for the definition of CSA, an acronym used mostly in America and by fellow Canadian James, I guess. Since this Forum has members from all over the World, wouldn't it be nice that acronyms used in your Country be explained once in a while...... or be included in the Glossary...

By the way, thanks James for this most interesting analysis of this stamp and its forgery.
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Edited by Renden - 09/07/2016 09:00 am
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Posted 09/07/2016   08:58 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well done, Jamesw. Thanks.
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