The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

Polish Offices in the Turkish Empire : Unissued.

Since I can find no record of different papers being use for this issue, I am presuming that the difference in the color of the backs shown in the original scan is merely aging of the gum and not indicative of different papers. Even with the same paper. If the printer turned various blank sheets of paper as he placed them to be printed, even that difference could cause the ink to flow differently from sheet to sheet, let alone any pulling or crimping while the ink was being impressed. These a hundred year old stamps. Who know what happened to each individual one over that time?

I was just suggesting that comparing images of multiple stamps still attached to each other might give a better idea of whether the difference is in the way the paper went through or whether more than one die was used in creating the engraving from which the sheets were printed. From currency collecting, I understand Bradbury, Wilkinson made molds of their dies to provide uniformity (thus supporting the "one die" idea assuming there were no defects in the mold) and would touch up the plate after a die had been impressed (potential die varieties).

As the same variations appear to be with the other Bradbury, Wilkinson issues, finding out if there really is a distinction might provide a place to divide duplicate cancels into two categories of "different" stamps. If nothing more, and for what it is worth, I think the variance in size of image should at least be noted.

I apologize if I have wasted your time.

Au contraire !
close investigation and study, can be a sweet part of Philately.
Please continue.

Turkish Revenues.
Municipal Taxes
Constantinople
1871 Weighing Fees (Set of 7) "Rectangles" McDonald Catalogue Numbers.
Hmm looking at the scans, my Black on Lilac could be Rose ?

Thank you for your encouragement. When I was done reading it, I saw your new posting of Polish Offices (Levant). I looked at the bottom image and thought, you are missing the 4th stamp like me. I pulled mine out and found they were the issued variety, not the unissued one you had posted. I had never seen the unissued stamps before and had only seen the picture of the single stamp shown in Scotts. I am a little confused about prices. My three catalog 8 times your three. Is that because of scarcity or of Scotts prejudice against unissued items (as well as other stamps it chooses not to recognize)?

Nice weighing fees Rod. Also some of my favorites...

According to Suleymaniye, it is a set of 33 - 16 2 para & 17 3 para:





#s for color comparisons:

Rose: 4047; 4048; 4063; 4064

Lilac: 4061

I'll let you decide which yours is!

Interesting note: the colors are given in both English & Turkish: "Pembe (Rose)" - but that's a bad/dangerous translation. 'Pembe' actually translates to 'Pink' - Rose is a shade of red. 4047 & 4048 definitely look more pink than red, whereas 4061 is distinctly lilac/lavender.

Your stamp looks more pink than lilac to me - but too close to call off a monitor. On my screen, yours is closest to 4063 in color - which is pembe/rose...

Hi Michael,
crikey, Suleymaniye has raised the bar on those issues. Duly noted.
I'll have to chase the 30 para (your 2-3 para a typo?)

"Rose" it is, def. missing the grey of the Lilac, thanks so much for providing scans, appreciated.

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No typos. {MAJOR TYPOS!!}

There are 33 stamps in the set.

16 of them are 'two' para stamps - (all of yours are two para) - see 1st scan.

17 of them are 'three' para stamps - see 2nd scan.

Very sorry...brain still waking up, apparently?!

20 para & 30 para!!

Hi abctoo,



Possibly both, I doubt that Amos (Scott) has prejudice regarding items, they do list most of my stamps worldwide, I should think they go on sales of those types of sets.

I have seen sets (both yours and mine) on ebay as high as $480
I bought my set this year for $7.23 + ship.
(My CV $30 is Scott old Catalogue)

Phew! had me worried there Mike.
all's good.

ebay 2018

Not sure if I have posted this prior,
Nicely sourced from member Postmaster GS here (Many Thanks)
We have this at our disposal, albeit most stationery is way beyond what I can afford.
Turkish Postal Stationery : Andreas Birkin. (Bi-Lingual)

For what it is worth, I was just trying to understand current values. When I put the three stamps away thirty years ago, I had noted the 1986 Scotts priced them at $15 each. Last year when I began to pull my stamps out of storage, I obtained Scotts 2009 CDs because I had not found all of the 1986 Scotts volumes (and still have not located Volume 4, P-Z) that I thought I had. Without that 1986 information, but based on an interpolation of the prices, it seems that this year rod222 paid about what Scotts 1986 price would be for the complete unissued set. I missed it back then, if it was available.

As to your discussion with mdroth about the Weighing Fee Stamps, at the moment you are way over my head. I am just learning. I mean, I have only just downloaded the 1915 Forbin Revenue catalogue for free from archive.org/details/ForbinFiscals1915 and now see the source of some of the catalogue page excerpts that mdroth often graciously provides in response to "newbie" questions about revenues.

But the Suleymaniye catalogue pictures he provided of the Weighing Fee Stamps show the detail of study has increased so much over the past 100 years. And these revenue stamps shown by both rod222 and mdroth, well, I am still trying to understand the magnitude of collecting. (Pardon my ignorance, but can you tell us a little more about the Suleymaniye catalogue?) To say it will take some time to digest it all only demonstrates how little I know about the subject. I am not even sure what to ask.

A range of comments:

Nice looking book Rod - what's in it? Can you post a representative sample page? Pick your favorite item?!

Careful on those Polish overprints....forgeries far outnumber the real ones. We talked about this somewhere in the past 104 pages??

ABC - what would you like to know about the catalog? (Also discussed somewhere in last 104 pages...) Published in March 2010. Out of print now. Hardcover - (can't scan!) - 587 pages. Likely most comprehensive effort since Macdonald. Prices in euros. But we've also discovered - in last 104 pages - that it is by no means complete...