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The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

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Posted 05/06/2019   4:36 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Turkish Revenues.
Constantinople.
1871 Market Fees. (14 in set) MacDonald Catalogue Numbers.



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Hi all,
Turkey Postal Stationery. Copyright Andreas Birken 1995
No ISBN number, but available from his site on the Internet.
All Items listed in chronological order.

(Such a delight to have Mr. Birken's Catalogues bilingual )



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abctoo,
Forbin Catalogue was/is available to download from our magnificent Moderator's site "Stampsmarter"
You may wish to kick tyres, meander through all delicious toothsome offerings.

Forbin is under Catalogues
http://www.stampsmarter.com/learnin...earning.html
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Posted 05/06/2019   10:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sc#1492A 1960 17th Olympiad Rome
Souvenir Sheet of 25
CV: $20
(Also printed in sheets of 100)
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abctoo,
I measured this fellow, and it was 22.5mm x 25mm


Not seen before, PTT overprint and Bar,
Possibly part of the Typesetter's frame ?
Makes for a nice proof of a genuine overprint.
Sc#P159 1917 Newspaper Stamp 5 paras purple. (Type A17 domestic use stamp)
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Edited by rod222 - 05/07/2019 12:32 am
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Postal Tax Stamps
Private Issues and Charities.
Type 5A Aid for Cyprus
P10.5 Unwmk 37 x 21.5mm
Map of Cyprus.
Exists in values 10k, 25k, 50k (also imperf) 100k, 250k, and 500k
Kibrisa Yardim Pulu.
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Hate to tell you this Rod - 30 in set of 1871 octagon market fee series...

18 with 10 para denomination; 12 w/30 paras
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Thank you Michael, duly noted.

Constantinople
1890 Real Estate Tax P11.5 x 12, P12
Unwmkd 30 x 38 mm
Crescent and Star on ornamental design.
Background without lines
Fleur de Lis' on central corner ornaments.
9 in set.
McDonald #5 20 Piastre Black on Buff.
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Starting to see a definite trend here!

10 listed w/o background lines. Yours lists at 20 euros. And nice negative cancel!

16 listed w/background lines.

Here's that envelope - I'd be curious to hear what it says. There are a couple sizes/varieties:


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Neat find last night breaking down a old worldwide collection . From the Turkish province of Thrace ,a 1913 overprint missing the top half of the overprint .
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Rod222's Constantinople 1871 Market Fees show weights from 1 to 24 "D." Are these "Ds" pennyweights? If pennyweights, it is 20 pennyweights to the troy ounce, and about 10% more of an ounce in avoirdupois, or 1.55517384 grams. What was being weighed? Gold, silver, medicine? The weight is a little light for food, except for thought.

Thank you for providing the dimensions on that magnificent Arabian Government postage due. The following text line mentioned the potential "frame bar" overprinted on the next item you posted.

That jarred my memory from 4 decades ago when I did this stuff. Some techniques for transferring die images to an engraving plate use various devices to assure an "exact" image is transferred so that the die is applied uniformly without tilting the impression. I greatly increased the size of the scans of the Arabian Government stamp and the two I had posted. There is no question all are from the same die. A careful check of all of the details of the printing throughout the stamps could provide no other conclusion. [I did not post the scans because the original scans are of different resolution and the distortion created when trying to make them all the same size made them unviewable.]

Some interesting things to note. The double circles with the denominations or other stuff at the center of each side appear quite circular on rod222's 22.5x25 mm stamp, while in my 22x25 mm stamp the circles are slight oval vertically and in the 22.5x24.5 stamp slightly oval horizontally. Also, from the best enlargement of the image I could make, it appears that the double circle at the right of the Arabian Government stamp touches or overlaps the right frame while it does not on the other stamps. If so, this may be because the paper "wrapped" into the plate or something else. I noticed that about 2 mm down the outer right frame line is a bulge or something on all stamps. It could be from the unsteady hand of the person making the die or the frame line in a process of breaking. From what the distorted enlargement of the Arabian Stamp showed, it appeared to have been slightly corrected (or re-engraved?) at that spot. A better resolution scan would tell more.
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Posted 05/07/2019   5:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Just logged on, need time to digest previous posts.
Thank you all.
Meanwhile, something I prepared before.
Private Issues and Charities
Circa 1970's
McDonald Catalogue numbers.
TURKIYE KIZILAY GENCLIGI ( Red Crescent Youth Organisation)
Perf11 (New Design P 10.5)
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Quote:
Neat find last night breaking down a old worldwide collection . From the Turkish province of Thrace ,a 1913 overprint missing the top half of the overprint .


These are new to me floortrader,
hard to understand, I need to do some reading, the script does not seem to match Scott from what I can see.

Scott comments
These surcharges were made with handstamps, two of which were required for each surcharge. One or both parts may be found inverted, double or omitted. Nos. 16-33 exist with forged surcharges
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ROD----Nice revenue stamps ,never seen them before ,did you make those pages for them ,and can I ask where did you get them ? Is there a catalog for them ?

On the THRACE stamps they are a new find for me and have no reference points to say real or fakes ,hope to find info. over the next few weeks.
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Posted 05/07/2019   7:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Floortrader,
again, thanks for your kind words.

Quote:
did you make those pages for them ,and can I ask where did you get them ? Is there a catalog for them ?


Catalogue : I use McDonald (as used by Nigel) a more budget example.

Did I make Pages?: Not yet, using McDonald is not accurate enough for my time to produce. I need to save my pennies for the Suleymaniye Catalogue that Michael employs (Expensive)
That may be a year off.

Where did I get them?
My Dealer (of 10 years) I wish to remain private to protect my source (hope you understand)
ebay and Hipstamp I have ongoing constant with Turkey, they email me when new stock arrives, have to pick and choose, Turkish Revenues are dashed expensive in the main.
I have a Brisbane fellow that occasionally comes up with Turkey stuff, an amazing fellow, has worldwide stuff rarely seen, don't know where he gets it, probably a life long collector quitting stock.
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