The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

And I thought the 3k in the middle was odd duck. So much to learn. I really must get an Isfil catalog of some sort.

My next inquiry is concerning this Postal tax stamp, which I believe is suppose to be RA208. Problem is I don't see anything in Scott about a black color omitted error, or variety. Is this a known error?

Perf Guage?

Could be anything.
My guess is a private printing, and mis appropriated by unkown persons, or printer's waste.
Not Listed. (In any of my reference papers)

Exists
1958 Unknown date, (Turkey ceased postal tax stamps in June 1958)

If the missing black would have had KURUS in Capitals
then RA208
Existed Imperforate.
Existed Part Perforate

If the missing black would have KURUS in lower case letters, then would have been a private charity printing (after June 1958)
(of which many appeared)

We shall never know with yours.
Largest question unknown to me, was PULHAN MATBAASI inscription on RA208? or private printing?
My RA208 Indeed has the inscription, with Capital KURUS
I am ergo, assuming yours is an RA208 with missing black colour.
Should be Perf. 10.5
My Crescent is scarlet, yours appears to be carmine?

Variety? Error? your choice.

I have come to the conclusion (rightly or wrongly)
both yours and mine are private charity printings (After June 1958)

Have a look at Scott PT79, the design is different, the clouds have a different shape.

To Further confuse things
YANSTAN (Cat#247) has the 1k brown ...PULHAM MAATBASSI

Scott does not show any such inscription in its image. (PT79)

Hiya Rod, thanks for your considerable input on this.
A couple things:
Mine is indeed perf 10.5

The clouds are, I believe, actually different in the later version of the stamp, and not quite like the PT79 design. I am including a screen cap from Stampworld (not that I trust Stampworld any more than Scott), showing all the various denominations from that later set. All of the ones with this particular design have the same cloud pattern and the inscription in the margin, although you cannot see the 25k because of such a small margin.

I do believe it is the RA208, design, perf and color at least. But, I would also think that such an "error" would have been recorded somewhere, so the conclusion that it is something privately produced, or printers waste is much more logical, and it is how I will label it in my album, until other information might come to light.

Hiya Spain,

we have "Trainwreck" to thank for assistance

I would trust Yanstan over any of the catalogues......

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I have some stamps from Ottoman empire which I would potentially need help to identify but especially to tell if they are fully genuine, fully forgery or partial forgery (cancel, overprint, etc.). Is it OK to post them to this thread or should I start a new one?

We would welcome them Kuikka,
Please consider one at a time, with decent scan, there are many
knowledgeable collectors of Turkey here.
Happy to offer our opinions.

Rod222,

Thank you very much. I am assisting an elder gentleman who owns these stamps, so they are not mine. He gave me a 32 page stockbook full of Turkey (turns out be be something else, too) to work on. Not all of them need your assistance, but early ones from Ottoman empire need. He intends to sell the content (locally here in Finland as he is not too familiar with internet) and I assist him in describing the stamps. I learn in the process as I have never seen any of these stamps in flesh. So, while I there is no hurry, I think one stamp at the time is a bit slow, but I will look to see what is reasonable speed in showing them here that no-one gets overwhelmed. As he intends to sell them, I can pass him also offers if some stamps are of interest to people on this board. However, I am not actively trying to sell any of them here. Also, as I am not trying to sell them here, I do not in general show the back of the stamp (which would be necessary to do for selling) but will be happy to do that if it is needed for identifying the stamp or for telling if it is genuine or not (also if someone is interested to make an offer).

For anything related to selling must be according to the rules of this board and will be done only if I get green light from moderators or similar. Otherwise these are only for assessing if they are genuine and identified correctly. This forum where we are now is not for selling and I suppose if anyone opens discussion on buying, I will open a new thread on sales forum and move discussion on that there while leaving rest of the discussion here. I hope this is not against any rules of this board. If there is anything against the rules I will correct that as soon as I become aware of it.

Here comes the first batch. I will include a label (assumed catalogue number and letter) to make it easier to discuss about them. Each will have unique label, so it is easier to discuss them also later on, if needed. I am aware that these may be damaged. That is not the main point, although you are free to point is out. The intention is just to know if they are genuine or if there is anything strange in them.



I believe these are Scott 1, Michel 1. Any opinions on them?
Sc1 Mi1 A
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Sc1 Mi1 B

Right, understood, Kuikka.
My personal route, others may disagree.
Simple
Look at a page, identify total Scott catalogue value of stamps shown.
Divide by 4
That's your base price.
Go to auction.

Depending on rarity of stamps, you may find a swing of 10% to 20%
either way.
That's what I paid for my collection, caveat, that was when the Aussie dollar was par with the greenback.
We are several years past, and prices have firmed, how much, is beyond me, as I am missing very few items.

Selling for someone else, is prone to disappointments, hope you are up to it, Good Luck.

The owner of the stamps is following similar pricing, so, that is no issue. And damaged stamps fetch less.

However, as I mentioned earlier, I am not here mainly to sell but to find out if these are genuine. Any opinion on if they are genuine or not?

Edit: fixed a typo.

These I am not comfortable with,
One needs hands on expertising,
These are the flagships of the entire Turkey Catalogue,
I have very few, avoided them due to price.

That said, the first perhaps a couple of dollars
badly torn, poor shape, probably a forgery (missing the "secret mark")
Cat $20

Second, one needs to feel the paper and appraise the face wash
maybe coloured paper, has "secret mark"
Cat $37

These can get astounding prices from buyers with limited knowledge
Can take years to be aufait with their indiosyncrasies.

I am not aware of the "secret mark". Could you be more specific?