The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

Let's hope I get this right......losing my confidence.

Penultimate issue to complete a page. I think this will be it, the last stamp is $300.
Sc#P41 1901 A16 2 piastre Grey Blue CV $20



1897 Newspaper Stamps
Steiner Page 70.

(Page CV Mint $800)

Now...it's all come back to me ! THIS is what I bought the lot for ..........
It just fell out of the glassine.

The B5/B10 was just a bonus.

I spotted this Sc# P42 in amongst others (CV $300 / $90)
There were 19 bids and I won the Job lot at $10
Breaking the stamps down, I paid around $4 for the 5 piastre.

Now all remains, is to see the validity of the stamp, and whether a forged overprint.
Looks like both a postal and fiscal scratch cancel. I have no idea on Turkish postal/revenue usage.

I cannot find what I thought was information on the dimensions of the genuine Newspaper Overprints.

Opinions welcomed.

Sc#P42 1901 A16 5 piastre ochre. Perforation guage : Unknown.

Found some Turkey stamps....old Scott Junior Album bought by my father in the 60s....I have not inventoried them....just a "tease" for Rod - I know he can take it !!
Not good at scanning pages and cropping and reducing to around 200k....even with some coaching.
Rod I am certain some of my stamps could fill some spaces....problem: I do not have dups, at this hour in the Maritimes, Canada....!!!
Rene

Nice beginnings Rene,

Note: The stamp with the brown border, is a Postage due, belongs "B.o.b" Back of book.

Thanks Rod....re-read my post.....teaser !!
Rene

Turkey P174 Newspaper stamp - gorgeous 1920 red surcharge
Did not go through the 50 pages

Rene



Turkey # 22 - 1869 1 pi yellow (not a Ms Turkey !)

One of the most common Turkish Stamps.
Available in their 1000's including multiples and blocks.




Not understood ?

Rod

I meant it did not look like Miss Turkey.....stamp with flaws but from "old age"

Your thread has awaken my interest in Turkey.....2 Albums from <1940 and Books my dad also bought (60s as I said) and I just opened them to see some old and good looking stamps #20 and up. Am grateful - Thanks Rod

Do not want to spoil this nice thread....treat with respect and have fun ! My friend Blaamand must be reading from Brazil, or Norway

René

.....10 pages done and still going - nice !

I make this Sc#J29 Postage Due.

5 pi bister brown, Turkey J29 (Scott)...with brick red border.I cannot read Turkish and my catalogue does not show me nothing -

Rod, you are amazing and I do thank you. I will scan all my old Turkey stamps, send them to you for expertise......you know I am kidding but grateful that your knowledge helped on this one !!

Rene

Rene,
thanks go to Michael, he gave us a "how to" on Postage dues, on Page 52

I hope this might help from the website posted somewhere back in this topic - I think by Stampcrow, I can't find the post now but I bookmarked the site

[url]https://sariucak.com/articles/printed-matter-overprints-on-stamps-and-forgeries/url]

it seems to have a pretty comprehensive coverage of some of those pesky printed matter overprints

sorry the link seems to work but in a roundabout sort of way. Schoolboy error of some sort - this seems better

https://sariucak.com/articles/print...nd-forgeries

That's it!
Thanks Crispin...well done you.

You guys start rapid fire posting & all the good stuff gets forgotten as the pages pile up!!

(I want it noted for the record - the 'vegemite' crack was NOT from me! But NOT because I wasn't thinking it as well?!!!) (Vegemite has to be one of the strangest things to ever come out of Australia?!??)

Back to the stamps:

From Nigel's comments / Rod's postage due picture on pg 64:




Here's where this gets fun/strange/confusing!

So we have a regular postage stamp - Scott #251-252-253 - issued on Oct 23, 1913. (dates/info from Isfila)

In 1914, all 3 denominations are surcharged for 'postage due' use - (the top half/4 stamps of Rod's page) - but according to Isfila, these were never issued. (All 4 of Rod's are mint.) They give no 'used' value for them. Scott calls them 'postage due' stamps - #s J59-J62 - offers both mint & used values - but makes NO mention of them not being actually issued as postage due stamps.

Then, in Feb 1916, we have these surcharged - non-issued postage due stamps - overprinted with a 5-point star & crescent 'war orphans' overprint, as well as a new surcharge, creating Scott #J67-J70.

I believe the 'note' that Nigel is referring to is after J86 - covering J71-J86 - which includes the PTT overprinted/surcharged issue - (which does NOT have the 5-point star/crescent overprint) and therefore does NOT include J67-J70 in that case.

??

(Are we confused yet??)

(I know I am!!)

So I agree - J67-J70 were overprinted & surcharged - for a 2nd time - for use as regular postage stamps. So why doesn't Scott's note say J67-J86, instead of J71-J86?? (Contradiction #2)

Contradiction #1 is why is there no note after J59-J62? Scotts seems to think they were issued as postage due stamps, whereas Isfila does not??

We'll have to come back to the vegemite at a later posting...!!