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That one catches a lot of collectors, Chris. Sc#305 Variety Isfila 520 SE25 on 520 DE30 (Misplaced overprint on Perf 13.5)  |
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Hi Rod,
That looks like a forged overprint to me. The star is the wrong shape. |
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Hi Rod, On a much more positive note, thank you very much indeed for letting us know about the Andreas Birken booklets.  I've borrowed the first three from our society library and they are really good. The illustrations are excellent. |
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Seek Opinions please. Would this be ISFILA #857? or ? Thank you. (On 1914 1k / 1.5k Surcharged commemorative stamp, for 10th July National Fete) Handstamped.  |
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| Edited by rod222 - 03/23/2018 9:28 pm |
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Quote: That looks like a forged overprint to me. The star is the wrong shape. G'day Nigel, yes, I had lots of trouble with this one. It is the 5 pointed star, and I thought perhaps a smudged "handstamp" but Isfila does not list this as a handstamped option. I am mounting this as "Suspected Forged Overprint" The apparent genuine Pmk, was perhaps an indication the original stamp format was genuine. Bogus opt added later. |
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| Edited by rod222 - 03/23/2018 9:36 pm |
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And the same I'm afraid for the next one.
The star should be clearly printed with sharp points. |
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Quote: And the same I'm afraid for the next one. The star should be clearly printed with sharp points. Nigel, this one I am crossing my fingers. This stamp comes in the handstamped version, and I am completely ignorant on just how one would regard the impressions. I think I may have mucked up, this to me looks like a "missing 60" opt, and has a CV of a couple of thousand dollars. I am not getting excited yet, awaiting Michael's appraisal. I probably have it all wrong. |
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Hi Rod,
I've never head of the missing 60 stamp. That sounds interesting.
Both SG and Michel list a missing year variety in the first overprint. |
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Nigel, this Fete stamp, comes in 6 error "varieties" Perhaps my stamp will pay for the Catalogues :) --------------------------------------------------- 1917 1913 GPO PTT Overprints (Vertical) A bevy of Unknowns, only the 20 Paras is listed in ISFILA. I may write to ONEPS and seek opinions on these. (Correct orientation of the Opts (Oxheads) should be facing Left)  |
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I think I ought to read this post in detail. Spent 1 hour trying to fix the top few rows in my Scott page. At worst, learnt the turkish numerals ( or so I think )  |
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Fairly close there, Ananth. Takes a fair while to get confident with stamp positions. That page is rather broad, with not enough spaces really. Turkish Numerals here at Jim's place......... http://bigblue1840-1940.blogspot.co...fTurkey.htmlThis may assist you get the first two sets in order..........  |
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| Edited by rod222 - 03/24/2018 12:40 am |
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Hi Rod - have to make the same comment as Nigel - I've never heard of the 'missing 60' either. Not listed in Scott or Isfila - guessing this was a new addition for your specialized cat...
Further, as I've said several time over the course of 71 pages - I have ignored the PTT bulls-head overprints - as most are fake & I have not as yet come up with a way to distinguish them. Eventually I'll get into these - I know you posted some good pictures a while back - but at the moment, your opinion is as good and likely better than mine...
I will make one comment on your missing 60 stamp - you're saying the cat lists this as a 'handstamped' variety? (If you could post a picture - just with your phone - of the listing in the catalog - it would help!)
I assume it means the PTT bulls-head overprint is handstamped? Or the original overprint? (Or the additional surcharge?)
Regardless - nothing on that stamp looks like a handstamp to me. The handstamps are distinctive - go through some of your Turkey in Asia stock & you'll see the difference immediately between a typography & a handstamp.
And after all that - look at that PTT bulls-head overprint on your stamp. Nothing about it looks right. The star, as Nigel said, is off. But look at the date?! Most damning of all, in my mind - that overprint is OVER the cancel - and if it was legit, it really should not be over the cancel.
I can see where you're thinking it is a handstamp - the inking on the overprint is lighter on the left than the right.
To be sure, I would send that one to one of your German friends - I'd be curious to hear what they have to say! |
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Heartily agree with most, Michael, but this fellow is a grey area for mine. I have absolutely no experience with "handstamped", what devices were used? What materials ? Which would go towards suggesting an impression "wear" I took the lid off my scanner. My Bad: CV = 2,700 Turkish Lira = $800 Aussie? Here are the bad boys............... (My Guess Isfila 857 SE184)  |
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