The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

Need some help on these are they revenues ? or are they Cinderella ?

Caveat: Practising my ID, Michael or Nigel may correct.
Basic Stamp is Sc#31 2pi Red 1870 pin perf.
Ergo the Opt is Sc#451 1917 $45 / $60 for single 2009 ?

Comparing to my #31's, your print has crisp clear print edges,
that's a bit worrying.
I'll check in my specialists cat, for imperf between examples.

For Michael's benefit.
Just tossing a few things around, interested in your opinion.
I think the basic stamp is an Isfila #75

From what I can see is the Type llla gurush Overprint.
If that is correct then the PTT opt, is an error, stamp #75 instead of Stamp #49.

There is an imperforate (between) vertical strip of 3 listed as above for 1,800 TL

Just learning...welcome comments.

Agree with all stated by Rod...

Underlying stamp looks good to me. Printing quality etc typical for the issue.

No opinion on Ox-head overprint. (I'll re-state Scott note: forgeries abound!)

The earlier Duloz specialized cat lists imperf pairs etc. But doesn't cover the ox-head overprints. Glad to see the new specialized cat now covers these!

Regardless of the overprint, a nice item!!

Nice puzzle floortrader!

I've looked at this several times this morning and my impression is that the PTT overprint is too wide for its height.

I've tried measuring this on the screen against a couple of overprints in my collection and this seems to support this.

However, I don't know how well the scan and my monitor preserve the relative dimensions and also I can't be sure my stamps are genuine.

I suggest doing the same test against the dimensions in Rod's Isfila and/or Birken books.

Thank Michael.

I'll go over it on the morrow, but it looks to me, like Floortrader has a unique item. $500 Aussie dollars Catalogue or above.
The PTT opt looks good to me.
I'll see if I can gently manoeuvre the catalogue for some scans, otherwise I'll offer what I think are the Isfila numbers.
I am wondering (with Floortrader's permission) to supply the scan to Isfila for a future catalogue reference?

Opinion:
Type llla 2pi Gurush ID
Large gap from the bottom curved letter

Nigel,
just saw your post, I'll do some work on it tomorrow.

Thanks everybody for your input ,Rod take that scan and send it. We all would like to get a expert opinion on it and maybe a explanation .

Still working on the OX-HEADS [cow heads,bull-heads] ,there are different varieties. Trying to find information on-line with no luck . I will next call the APS library for information and needed reference books .As it stands, will need to develop my own file of information.

Here is something I found years ago and had it filed away ,just a good reference point .

Wow. Thanks for those Thessaly documents FT.
These are real nuggets for the information compendium.

Great article floortrader. Thanks for sharing this.

I wasn't even aware there was a bridge in the design!

I can now see the differences clearly with a magnifying glass.

Step 1.
Considering the 1st Value Opt. Type llla 2 gurush.
The gap in the bottom curve, and the "y" type figure adjacent, has a straight leg, suggesting Type llla (not rare)

Assumed : colours between scanner and catalogue are going to vary, vastly.

Isfila spec cat Vol 1 P130

If we assume it is Isfila #75, It exists in 4 colours / shades

Yellow
Rose
Flesh
Brownish-Red (FT's example) Cat# 75RV3

FT.
Scan emailed to Isfila, requesting opinions on the triptych, and PTT overprint.

Opinion:
from what I see, everything looks kosher, the PTT opt looks OK for a Typo. print.
(Rough guide...the "Oxhead" horns seem to fit inside the size of the oval of pearls.)

Note: The PTT opt exists in slightly different sizes Typo. v Handstruck.

The colour in the catalogue, I am assuming to be the "Flesh" shade.

Isfila Turkish Stamps Specialised Catalogue
Page 569 ( Book ll)

Thanks Rod .

1943
Steiner Page 4.

Sc#915a CV : $70 / $100
Looks like CTO, no gum, thin, creased. Paid $4