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The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

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Posted 12/16/2018   07:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Recent purchase. Cover from Mongtze Indochina too Smyrne.Addressed to Mr.Paul Gaudin
who was Director of the Smyrne railway Co.An avid archeolgist also,he donated many antiquities to the Istamboul museum,Louvre museum.Possibly a colleague and fellow
engineer working on the Indochina Yunnan line at the time that sent the letter.
The cover is interesting because of the Mongtzé cancel.




Perhaps during the construction of the railway many artefacts were discovered.Paul Gaudin
on one of the sites.

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Posted 12/16/2018   5:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Lovely cover P12.
Mr. Gaudin apparently suffered the ignorance of early archaeology,
often using Spolia in construction of his railways.
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Posted 12/16/2018   6:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

I have a hard time understanding this.
If memory serves me correctly, these have been offered over the past couple of months, price reduced from around $360 ? to $165.

Poland Post offices in the Levant apparently a Catalogue value of $877 AUD.

Why would the vendor not take the time to get a certificate?
Surely the lot would have been snapped up, if so.


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Posted 12/16/2018   6:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Latest Edition of the Middle East Philatelic Journal has arrived.
Topics:

(Which includes an advert request for Sand Dunes, and Sahara Republic stamps, a surprise! and right up my alley)

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Edited by rod222 - 12/16/2018 6:59 pm
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Posted 12/20/2018   10:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ottoman stamp cover Jérusalem too Konigswinter via Trieste 1891


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Posted 12/20/2018   11:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have that Polish offices set. If memory serves, I paid like $15-20 for it. Spent alot of time researching after that to determine if forgery or real, and eventually just left it - without coming to any conclusion. The majority being offered in the market are forgeries - and I bought my set assuming it was fake - just to study.

I wouldn't even know who to send the set to get it expertized - maybe Sismondo in Canada? If the seller is in Australia, likely a similar problem, if they even care...
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Posted 12/20/2018   1:08 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice cover P12,
I'll have to see if I can find the Jerusalem Pmk in my catalogues.


Quote:
I wouldn't even know who to send the set to get it expertized -


That surprises me Michael, I'd ask ONEPS should I be fortunate enough to have something of value to be expertised.
In fact, I may ask if the Opts have been focussed on any past ONEPS Journals...

Thanks for your passing on your experience.
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Posted 12/29/2018   03:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Question about a stamp series that - incredibly - I do not believe has been mentioned yet in 93 pages!

National Defense series. Issued in 1941. 5 values - from 10k to 2 lira. Listed in Isfila as M7-M11. High cv - app 2011 values $650 mint & $265 used for the series.

My entire collection - only 2 of the 5 values:




Anybody have any more info about these? They must be extremely scarce - you never see them come up for sale. (I've looked!)

Any info would be greatly appreciated!
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Posted 12/29/2018   03:09 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Your wish, my command.

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Posted 12/29/2018   09:41 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 91stang to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am looking for that bulletin--wow! great new info
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Posted 12/29/2018   09:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the fast reply Rod. Guessing that's a page from McDonald? Adds a tiny bit more - did not know there was a 2nd color of the 1lira. Plus, it seems to list 8 denominations? And the part that says 'Part 1' is also interesting - Isfila lists these as 'Type II' - with the very common Type I stamps. (The 5 denomination set with the soldier with rifle - Isfila #M2-M6.

My questions are why were they printed - a 2nd national defense series in the same year? Obviously a very small print run - the Type 1 stamps are very common - there were lots of them. So why the 2nd version? How many were printed? How long were they in use??
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Posted 12/29/2018   3:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Guessing that's a page from McDonald?


Correct, Michael.
simply offering information as read.
Your questions are above and beyond my knowledge.
If you care to place your queries in a suitable format, I am happy to send to the editor of O.N.E.P.S. for the experts opinions.

From my understanding, after reading McDonald
National Defence arrived in 1924
8 values
Again in 1924 P12 7 values
The 3 you see in the scan were a circular seal 30.5mm 192???

Then your type as queried 194? 6 values

Then 1941-1944 soldier and map of Turkey

(These stamps were used as a postal surtax, AND fiscally, Postal surtax was obligatory certain times of the year)

Hope this helps.
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Edited by rod222 - 12/29/2018 3:23 pm
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Posted 12/30/2018   07:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I like these big type of stamps..

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Posted 12/30/2018   5:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Not seen these prior.
I'll have to look them up.
Fondatrions Pieuses = Pious Foundations.

Suggestion:
McDonald #12 (Values [4 Piastres] Reversed in the corners)
The written 4, is on the bottom.

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Edited by rod222 - 12/30/2018 5:28 pm
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Posted 12/31/2018   01:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mdroth to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again Rod - great info. I'll keep searching & reading anything I can find about these. Hoping someone else will chime in eventually!

I expect there have been write-ups at some time - I will eventually get to them - I hope!

Happy New Year to everyone!!
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