The Stamps Of Turkey / Turkiye: On Steiner Pages.

Can someone please ID this cancel?(Duloz Sc:22 1Pi)






(photo inverted)

No luck today.
I'll have a another go tomorrow.

Your first stamp has the cancelation up side down . Try ---- DIYARBEKIR

Nice catch Floortrader



Possible to have a better scan of 2nd stamp please?

Second might be a smeared version of the first, again upside down.

Question then: Floortrader gave me the clue. Found this cover in a past auction.Wouldn't it be a "Deraliye 81" ? (lot 80111). Deraliye = Sublime porte or Constantinople

https://stampauctionnetwork.com/cg/cg42669.cfm




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So this lead to identifying this cover I have. These cancels are "Diyarbekir" then ?
(Comparing to the auction cover)

Agreed. Great work Postmaster.

Caveat : Utter Postmark Novice.
Student Learning to read my notes.

I make it Diarbekir Code AR3 ( A3 triple frame, R=rectangular)
Type 47 Black
Use 1865-1882
Scarcity 1 =common.

Later queries by P12 beyond my understanding.

PS: Interesting to note the 3 ring rectangular, in this instance, the rectangulars are not concentric.

Hi perf12,

The Diarbekir strike is nice and clean and at first it looked to me to be an arrival mark.

However, I believe this is a postage due cover with the stamps applied and stamped in Constantinople.

According to Coles & Walker, the cancellation on the stamps is "Ujreti alinajaktir" (postage due).

This is confusing.
1) In the auction cover there is a stamboul arrival cancel on the back.So I assume
the clear strike in the upper right "Deraliye 81" was applied in stamboul also.
The stamps are not postage dues.
2)In my cover there is Double ring stamboul cancel on the back like the auction cover.
The cancels on the stamps on the auction cover and my cover are the same thus.
3) So the first stamps in this post carry which cancel?

Opinion:
P12, I believe this is your confusion. The clear strike is of Diarbekir.

I am guessing along the lines of Nigel, either a transit mark, or an arrival mark.


Aha ! Thanks again Nigel.

Then in the auction listing; can it be clarified?


1872, envelope tied by very clear "DIYARBAKIR 81" cancellation (Isfila no.4), franking 5 Pia. blue (corner missing) and 20 Pa. green cancelled at arrival "DERALIYE 81", top left corner flaw...

Hi perf12,


Sorry I wasn't clearer.

The clear strike in the upper right is from Diarbekir as identified by floortrader. It is not an arrival mark.

The auction description states that the stamps were cancelled on arrival with "deraliye 81".

Here the "deraliye" reference is to the Constantinople postage due cancellation on the stamps.


I agree but it is a postage due marking.


This is another postage due cover received and stamped in Constantinople. I guess this was the local practice at the time.


Your two yellow stamps have Diarbekir postmarks.

Applause! Got it. Thanks Nigel.

(Postage due special cancel.I will remember that) Thanks Floortrader,Rod222,Nigelc.
What confused me was the wording "Deraliye 81".It was a reference ;simply that it was
cacelled in the "Sublime port",(by the postage due cancel).

I love these journeys, esp when the light suddenly dawns.........

For the record "Ujreti alinajaktir" image.
Note: The inner frame varies 4 or more sizes, I believe yours to be Type 22 (thick script unlike the one posted here)

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