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Is This A Fake 19th Century Cut Square?

 
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Posted 09/29/2016   11:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add ddreisba to your friends list Get a Link to this Message




I cannot find an 18 cent black on grey corner in my album or catalogs. It looks like it belongs to the 1861 or 1865 series, but the only 18 cent there is U70, red on buff.

There is a scrape on the left side, and white paper shows through, awfully white for 19th cent. paper. And the back of the paper is white, not grey.

Did somebody make a photo of U70? It has been around for a while, and has been hinged at least twice, so if it is a photocopy, it might have been made before color, and certainly before scanners and computers. Seems an awful lot of trouble for a not terribly valuable stamp.

I'd appreciate your opinions.

Don
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Posted 09/29/2016   12:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add oldguy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Is the ink flat flush with the paper or if you run a finger nail over it can you feel a ridge of ink? Photocopy - flat & flush; original ink - ridge of ink. I don't think they had photocopy capability in the 1800's, but use ink in a printing press
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Posted 09/29/2016   8:20 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1typesetter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Can you post a scan of the backside?
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Posted 09/30/2016   06:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ddreisba to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, but it will take a while.

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Posted 09/30/2016   08:28 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ddreisba to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here is the back. It appears in reality a brighter white than it appears in the scan.

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Posted 09/30/2016   1:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 1typesetter to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
On genuine stamped envelopes the white areas of the image should be embossed, so you should see a reverse image of the embossing on the back. I don't see that.

Must be some sort of reproduction or copy??????
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Posted 09/30/2016   2:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add myfelixthecat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Did you check trial colors and proofs?
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Posted 09/30/2016   3:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ddreisba to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
No. I was just pretty sure it was some kind of fake. But I will check them. However, the paper is so white that I doubt it's from 19th cent.
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Posted 09/30/2016   5:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Just a thought:
I have seen, on multiple occaisions, stamp images cut from old Stamp Albums,
or Catalogues, for reasons unknown, that appear from time to time in collections.
This may be one of them.

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