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How To Scan/Photograph Stamps?

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Posted 10/21/2016   09:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Ricky93 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello everyone,

I have a little question.
I want to sell some stamps.

But how do I make pictures of my stamps?
I have tried to make some close-up macro photo's.
That gives me some blurry stamp pictures.

Is it maybe an option to scan the stamps?
And how do I get more stamps on one page under my scanner?
Maybe on such a cardboard page with strips, like these:



Have a nice day!
Greetings, Rik

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Posted 10/21/2016   09:13 am  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Photographs from mobile telephones are of very little use for showing anything other than an album. You should get some stock pages - which are usually a little larger than A4 - and scan those.
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Posted 10/21/2016   11:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rik

Set your scanner to minimum 400dpi, or better. You can scan the stock cards as Geoff has mentioned then crop the image with a photo-editing package. You can save the images in JPEG format if you're prepared for some image compression, or TIFF for large, high quality images. Use the forum's image optimiser when uploading big images. It works very well.

Many forum users scan their collections and store them digitally.

Hope this helps. Gr, Tim
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Posted 10/21/2016   11:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ricky93 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies guys.
Where in the Netherlands can I buy such A4 stock cards?

Are these good for scanning stamps?
http://www.hartberger.nl/mandor-ins...0-stuks.html

Or do I need other stock cards...?
Greetings, Rik
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Posted 10/21/2016   3:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add ddreisba to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Much of the equipment we buy over here is made in Germany. Check Prinz and Lichturm (Lighthouse), for example.

Don
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Posted 10/21/2016   3:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add dkabq8 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What is the collective's experiences with scanning stamps in Vario stock pages?
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Posted 10/22/2016   06:33 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ricky93 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the info.
Are these pages good for scanning?
http://www.collectwereld.nl/a4-inst...t-10-stroken
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Posted 10/22/2016   11:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Collentify to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rik,
it depends on your mobile phone.
With an iPhone 6s for example, you can have a very good close up photo.

This is for example what we have taken with flash in total darkness:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/14848...hares/1Bwo43
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Posted 10/22/2016   11:26 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rustyc to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Photos don't work at all if you want a detailed image. I use a Canon flatbed scanner -- the CanoScan LiDE 600F to be specific. I think it cost less than $100. I scan at 600 d.p.i. and use a great, FREE photo-editing program called IrfanView to crop, resize, straighten, sometimes sharpen, and many other things. There are higher-powered scanners and more expensive editing programs (like Photoshop) but this works fine for me. I am a total amateur at scanning and creating stamp images, but it's a snap after you've done it a couple of times.

Here's one where I was seeking opinions on the color of the cancel and was asked to post an image of just the cancel. You could not do this with a camera.





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Posted 10/23/2016   06:39 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ricky93 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks all for the replies.
I have an all-in-one printer from Epson, so I can scan with that device.
Then, I only need some a4 (black?) pages to put the stamps in.
And then I place that on my scanner and I can make scans of my stamps, right?

Thanks again,

Rik
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Posted 10/23/2016   07:20 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Rik,
Yes, you need the black pages with the clear plastic holding strips.
Commonly referred to as "Hagners" (about a $1 a page)
$13 for a packet of 10
Varying pocket sizes.

Place your stamps under the clear holding strip,
place the Hagner face down on the scanner platen and scan.

If you have an Epson, see if it has "Carousel" option on the scanner.
When you open the scanner software, under "preview"
you may see "Marquee"

If this is so, use the mouse to draw a square around each stamp,
select "all" and the dpi (600) then hit scan.
It will scan up to 30 stamps, one after another, or you can just scan the whole page in one pass.



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Posted 10/23/2016   07:37 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A few things that have not been mentioned...
- Cameras are difficult to use to image stamps. This is because of hand shake on close-ups and the need to be 'squarely' positioned above the stamp to remove distortion. If you are serious about imaging stamp you will want to use a scanner.
- If you use a scanner, always scan with the lid closed.
- Avoid using software to manipulate the image since this then introduces un-natural modifications that, while making the image look better, changes what the stamp might actually look like in reality. This is especially true if you are posting for selling or for color determination.
- If color determination is the objective; scan the stamp together with other stamps so a relative comparison can be done.
- Consider purchasing a good quality scanner application like VueScan Professional if you plan on scanning a lot of stamps. These apps are far superior to the 'free' scan applets that come bundled with the scanner. They can perform batch scanning tasks which will save you large amounts of time. They also support using calibrated profiles so that your images stay consistent over time.
- Be aware of the optical resolution limits of the scanner. Avoid using software derived higher resolutions (which are marketed by the manufacturers) and are slow and introduce software manipulation of the image.
- For highest accuracy images avoid positioning stamps around edges of the platen glass; instead try to keep stamps in middle of the platen.
Don
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Posted 10/25/2016   8:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ricky93 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you both for the very useful replies.
I am going to buy some of these black a4 pages soon.

I'll show you here on the forums when I made my first scans.

Greetings, Rik
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Posted 10/25/2016   10:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Philatarium to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Rik, for what it's worth, I stopped using the black stocksheets (Hagners, etc), as I felt the plastic slightly distorted or, at the very least, dulled the images.

So, for the last several years, I have been putting the stamps directly on the scanner glass (using stamp tongs). I have black paper taped to the scanner lid in order to get the black background that I prefer for stamps.

Yes, this method is a little more tedious than using the stock sheets (although, when I did use stock sheets, I obsessed about trying to keep the stamps straightened and aligned). I don't worry much about the stamps being carefully aligned on the glass, as I take care of the image straightening in Photoshop (or Photoshop Elements) afterward.

I just wanted to share another perspective.

Good luck to you!
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Posted 10/25/2016   10:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Goedenavond Rik! Philarium is doing it the same way I have been scanning for years. To me that seems to give the sharpest possible picture.

Peter
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Posted 10/26/2016   04:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Ricky93 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Okay, thank you for the valuable information.
I didn't knew that black paper was an other option.

But those black hangers, are they good enough to make "normal" resolution scans (about 400~600 dpi)?
Or do I need an other solution for those scans?
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