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Scott 128A - Possible New Variety

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Posted 11/07/2016   09:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi guys..Take a look at my Scott 128a stamps...Unitrade does not recognize any "hair line" varieties of this stamp...But, here it is.

Robert








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Posted 11/07/2016   1:06 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add JamesFarrow to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I believe that Stanley Gibbons decides whether to incorporate a new variety into its catalogue if somone can produce three examples of an unlisted variety. I know someone who has tried it with British King George V £1 black St George and th Dragon stamps in which the spear crosses the border.
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Posted 11/07/2016   9:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 91stang to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
super nice! watching
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Posted 11/07/2016   10:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert. I just picked up something similar, but can't confirm your findings. Here is a strip of 6 for 128 with hairlines (128 iv). But, as you can also see, it contains a paste-up on the last two stamps (128 iii). It is mint-hinged, with some thins, but an interesting piece.







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Posted 11/08/2016   09:03 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Very,very nice strip partime..It definitely has hair lines..

Robert
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Posted 11/08/2016   10:54 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yea you would definitely need a couple examples of a stamp to prove a plate variety vs an inking variety. That said, there is clearly something in general consistently going on with this stamp/plate.
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Posted 11/08/2016   11:21 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This is mostly from stress cracks in bent printing plates. There are some instances where some specialist collectors are paying premiums for some WWII Canadian King George VI plate blocks without plate cracks.
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Posted 11/08/2016   2:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the explanation. These resemble the hairline cracks on Plate 3 of the US 1c stamp of 1851 (actually 1856 for plate 3). Very very similar, and probably from a similar cause.

Coming from the point of view of wanting to find a stamp with plate cracks, I find it pretty amusing that one would value stamps without them more. Heh.
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Posted 11/10/2016   08:13 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjung to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a pair of the 2c Coil Perf 8 with Hairlines for comparison.

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Posted 11/10/2016   08:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
jimjung..Very nice hair lines..Do you or anyone have or is aware of hairlines on a 128a..?

And if so, why is it not recognized in Unitrade..??

Robert
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Posted 11/11/2016   10:35 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjung to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert,

I have heard that generally - all of the Admiral Issue stamps, especially the lower denominations can be found with hairlines. This probably due to the heavy use of the printing plates.

You should send an email to Leo from the BNAPS Admiral Study Group and I'm sure he would be happy to answer. He is an excellent resource for all Admiral questions and just another reason to be part of BNAPS in one way or another.
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Posted 11/11/2016   10:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Taken your advice jimjung...Sent info and pics to Leo..Thanks.

Robert

He replied to say it is normal..case closed...haha
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Posted 11/12/2016   09:24 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjung to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert, There are just too many of the inking issues with the Admirals. All of them are really considered normal unless it is a super huge ink smear. You have to learn to distinguish these with the real errors. It's not always easy to do.
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Posted 11/12/2016   09:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Robert, I got from the previous that if you find one without the hairlines you have the real variety!

Peter
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Posted 11/12/2016   10:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sounds about right Peter.

Robert
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Posted 11/12/2016   10:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wert,

Unitrade shows 128a as a block of 4 and your pic is not a Bl of 4 ?
Thanks for sharing your findings once again !
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