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My Search For Qeii Errors Continues....

 
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Posted 11/22/2016   3:43 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add jony78 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all...

My last post gained mixed reviews so I've placed the stamp in my album as an ananomoly,the search for errors continues, today I nipped in my local auction house not expecting to buy anything but came away with a huge stamp collection,
first page,first album this stamp jumped out at me...

could it be..?...

thanks in advance...

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Posted 11/22/2016   4:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Unless you know its provenance and history... put it down to some silly bugger with a cotton bud dipped in methylated spirits. It is possible to buy a sheets of these stamps and rub the gold off every second stamp and sell the resulting "pairs"
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Posted 11/22/2016   4:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jony78 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
hi Scott..

Usually I would dismiss but this lot I know to be probate and house clearance,the whole collection is early to QEII stuff which ends within two years of this stamps release, the collection belonged to the same person and there are a few high value items,
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Posted 11/22/2016   4:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Jony, it may be a true variety, but it really needs to be certified. As Scotzm says these are to easy to fabricate. It does not make any difference where the stamps came from, without certification it does not mean a thing.

Peter
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Edited by Petert4522 - 11/22/2016 4:34 pm
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Posted 11/22/2016   4:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jony78 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
thanks for replies, I agree, with this being an often faked item would you be able to tell if it was a genuine item? also who be be the people or company able to certify?
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Posted 11/22/2016   4:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It is impossible for it to be a "missing gold" as there was something there... only changed in color probably by chemical reaction. Perhaps I was hasty in saying methylated spirit. It could be changed with salt water.
Stanley Gibbons does not list a variety such as that.
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Posted 11/22/2016   4:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jony78 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
i wanst sure if the green was printed before the gold beacause of the stars background?
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Posted 11/22/2016   5:53 pm  Show Profile Check GeoffHa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GeoffHa to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In answer to your expertising question, the RPSL and the BPA both offer expertising services:

http://www.bpaexpertising.com

http://www.rpsl.limited/Home.aspx
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Posted 11/23/2016   01:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There must be a chemist around here! What turns gold colored inks to green? There is probably a copper content in the ink to give it that color to start with.
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Posted 11/23/2016   02:08 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Although I collect British stamps I am far from an expert and I am certainly not a chemist. But I do know that some metallic gold inks contain copper (and we all know what color the copper Statue of Liberty is). Silver tarnishes and turns black, copper turns green. To test this perhaps take a similar stamp and try dabbing a vinegar and salt solution on it.
Don
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Posted 11/23/2016   02:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"i wanst sure if the green was printed before the gold beacause of the stars background?"
Each color had its own cylinder so, if you take the gold head for example, the only possibilities are 1. Full gold head. 2.Partial gold head. 3.No gold head.
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Posted 12/09/2016   10:38 pm  Show Profile Check eyeonwall's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add eyeonwall to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
US #1335was printed with gold ink, but sometimes turns up green and it is a chemical changling, not an error, but I don't know what chemical is used.
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Posted 12/10/2016   09:34 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add scotzm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I didn't have any methylated spirit so spent a few minutes with Ronsonol on a cotton bud to remove the gold head from a spare stamp... a bit longer and with more care and it would all have gone.

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Posted 12/10/2016   11:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Tim H to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nice one!
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