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Having Trouble Identifying These Cancels.

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Posted 12/31/2016   08:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjung to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I don't think they are cheques. I think they are from parcels and tags. This started during the Edwardian era on the high values. (10c, 20c, 50c)

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Posted 12/31/2016   09:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Solved! Good job jimjung!
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Posted 12/31/2016   10:55 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Solved..??
As jimjung has posted, they are all low value stamps used in the time..Does not explain high value stamps as I have posted 5 cents and 50 cents...Even years later as a few of my cheques I have posted, still have low value stamps...I have lots and lots of them with 3 cent or lower...The higher value stamps still dont explain the marker concept..to me any ways...But I am no expert.

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Posted 12/31/2016   11:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Was not the thinking 'is this a precancel'? Seems that we have the answer, they were cancelled with some kind of marker (no matter mail or revenue use).
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Posted 12/31/2016   11:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes Don..You are right..I stand corrected.

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Posted 12/31/2016   11:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 51studebaker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I guess if anyone could find a large multiple/sheet of unused stamps marked this way it would go towards proving that this kind of mark was used as a precancel. Has anyone ever seen unused, full gum examples with this kind of markings?
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Posted 12/31/2016   11:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
BNAPS has this interesting take on cancels.



Check out stamp 25 and the explanation about it.

So the 4 singles I have posted could have been removed from cheques.

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Posted 12/31/2016   12:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have never seen a 10¢ Admiral on a cheque - a parcel, perhaps.
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Posted 12/31/2016   12:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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Has anyone ever seen unused, full gum examples with this kind of markings?

I have seen these type of cancels on multiples of fully gummed stamps, that was why I mentioned in the first place, however they were U. S. Treasury stamps. Here is a block of four, percanceled, full gum.





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Posted 12/31/2016   12:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
littleriverphil...Now with those mint blocks, it brings me back to "did they pre cancel stamps with marker/brushes/crayons"...?

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Posted 12/31/2016   12:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jimjung to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
wert - amazed at the cheques you found with these marks. I guess if you look at my Admiral cheques, I see a couple with the same type of marking.

In order to understand these better, I grabbed a few print screens from the past Brigham Admiral Issue Sale; the catalogs are still on his site. These are Bulk Mailing Tags, used to send out Printed Matter in bundles, usually advertisements.

btw - I have seen one sheet of Admirals cancelled with a crayon by scoring horizontally across each row. I can't find the scan but remember it was a large auction house sale at least three years ago.





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Posted 12/31/2016   12:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
jimjung..What do you think..
Am I right in saying that maybe there are unknown marker/brush/crayon pre cancels that exist. and no one paid attention to this oddity..?

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Posted 12/31/2016   3:47 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jamesw to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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I have never seen a 10¢ Admiral on a cheque - a parcel, perhaps.


I don't deny it could be from a parcel, but certainly 10¢ on a cheque would not be unheard of. Depends on the value of the cheque.
I have many that look like the ones that wert posted, but here are two, where the amount of tax was so high that they had to put the stamps on the back. No 10¢ Admirals available, I suppose.



The top cheque was written for the amount of $1,570 with .63¢ in Admirals on the reverse.
The second is written for the same amount, but only had .62¢.
These are cancelled with ink.
Both were written in 1923.

I'll also note that excise and war tax stamps were also used on cheques. I do have some of those with higher values, 6¢ 8¢,10¢ and 20¢.
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Posted 12/31/2016   8:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add sak to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Amazing!
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Posted 01/01/2017   09:44 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Must have been crayon cancel/precancel..Take a look at these 5 stamps.

Robert




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