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Posted 02/26/2017   05:07 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sorsh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
you're welcome.

facit is horrible, and even our danish specialized catalogue has errors on bicoloured.
but it's more simple than facit, 16øres are either 27 for normal or 27y for inverted frame. and then each value has it's prints listed.

unfortunately, this is only in danish unlike facit.

to the 1864's... no blocks aren't common at all.

i'd like to show the different prints on 1870's...i have them all, but the failure of my camera to show the 8skilling would mean I just give an incorrect impression of them.

since you had trouble with the preussian blue I would have liked to show that.
saturated blue with a green hint. - which doesn't really make sense until your brain decodes what that is.

most here can't tell it either.. which means I can often pluck them out on accumulations and sell them for profit.
same goes for isolated inverted frames... bought 2 really good ones last night for DKR120 on a stock card, and these I can sell for DKR 300.
my knowledge has fueled my collection and made sure I could buy the good stuff.

the first post in this thread has a block of 4 16øre.. that block is print 1, rare to find just a single, even rarer to find an unused.. and that block is most likely the largest known outside of the museum which have 2 full sheets of it... it's my 2nd most cherished item.
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Posted 02/26/2017   06:12 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tvorog to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Facit 34, 20 øre = 11 images.

Since Facit color shade descriptions are so misleading, I won't even try to guess. Upside down image is of the stamp wit watermark inverted.

Will wait for your identification.
























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Posted 02/26/2017   07:17 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sorsh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
20øre aren't difficult either if you know the maingroups.

pictures as they appear =
print 6
print 3b
print 2
print 6
print 7
print 6
print 6
print 6
print 5 nice ovalflaw and frameflaw, pos 89
print 1b
print 1b

if you buy a stock page with 20øre, print 1 and print 6 will often be more than 50% of the stamps.. which is also the case in your collection... print 3b is good and semi rare.
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i just want to say this is a fascinating topic. I've actually went back to the beginning and started to reread the whole thread and much of it makes more sense now that I have worked with Tofdata a little. But there is still much to learn.

I have been going through some of my 8ø stamps and have noticed some things I thought were interesting.

Sorsh, first of all you were right, I am not finding many that I can successfully plate, but I still love examining them.

Here are 4 that I thought was interesting. All have the same ovalflaw (broken, outer oval, under the "8"). But when I try to identify an ovalflaw number, I run into a dead end. It looks much like the same flaw that shows in oval series 8, but I don't see a number given to it. Am I looking at it wrong? Or is there another reason?

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Posted 02/26/2017   11:27 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sorsh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
it's an ovalmatrice 7a.
i assume you only have 1-200 8øres or so.... statistically it would be very unlikely that you have 4 stamps with the same ovalflaw :)

press F8 in tofdata when you're on the value of 8øre.. and it'll show you all the matrice types.

of the first 2 stamps, the right one also has a frametype 5A

if you press this info into tofdata it'll look like this



17 results, and this you can work with.. also note that some of the stamps have ovalflaws, you can check those first and then cut them out.
i've worked with these alot, so I know from the perforation which vertical row has those telltalesigns... I also know which prints like what, so I can rule most of those out.

that experience you'll have to earn :)

also the 3rd stamp appears to also be a 5A and will be amongst those 17 options.

last stamp has a frameflaw in the lower right feather.

and first stamp might be a 5D... but you'll need to check with your magnifier.

have fun :)
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Posted 02/26/2017   5:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tvorog to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Let's see five Facit No. 35, 25 øre...











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Edited by tvorog - 02/26/2017 5:06 pm
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Posted 02/26/2017   5:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tvorog to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
And nine examples of Facit 36, 50 øre...
Oval colors vary a lot here.



















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Edited by tvorog - 02/26/2017 6:22 pm
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Posted 02/26/2017   5:42 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tvorog to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Finally, five examples of 100 øre, Facit 37.











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Posted 02/26/2017   6:56 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spain_1850 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I love the color variations of those 50ø.
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Posted 02/27/2017   01:46 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sorsh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
25øre. print 1 and 2 can be hard to tell apart from pictures and the same goes for print 3 and 4.

pic 1 = print 3 pos 12
pic 2 = print 2 (worn frames)
pic 3 = print 4 pos 17
pic 4 = print 1
pic 5 = print 5 inverted maingroup 5


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Posted 02/27/2017   01:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sorsh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
50øre - if you know the maingroups even a child can tell these prints apart as the colors are very different.

pic 1 = print 1b very solid copy.. nice well preserved oval color and good perforation and center, these are normally horrible in both centering and perforation and often the ovalcolor has faded or been exposed to sun... it turns lightblue then.
pic 2 = print 2 thick inverted frame
pic 3 = print 3
pic 4 = print 2 thick inverted frame
pic 5 = isn't perf 14 print 14 pos 41
pic 6 = print 5
pic 7 = print 4 pos 49
pic 8 = print 6
pic 9 = print 4 pos 15
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Posted 02/27/2017   01:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Sorsh to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
100øre

print 1, 1, 2, 3, 4

the 2 print 1 first pic is a new cliche and second pic is an old cliche.
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Posted 02/27/2017   01:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tvorog to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you, Sorsh!

I will show some following Denmark stamps but probably not today — too tired.

Thank you again for your valuable knowledge.
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Posted 02/27/2017   8:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add spain_1850 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Sorsh, can you tell me if I am correct on this?

Frame 4J
Print 53
Pos B43
OM 12
Ovalflaw 7.38

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Posted 02/28/2017   12:59 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add tvorog to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The following ovals, state arms and overprinted stamps of Denmark extend into 20th century but I still collect them, since they continue the previous types.

I sold all my Danish stamps issued from 1914 to 1940, because I've become very depressed with 20th century in general and all that it signifies in particular (except science, maybe — but even science is being subverted now by mendacious politicians).

So, Facit 38, 3 øre, six images...













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