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Cannot Find This Russian Stamp, Can Anyone Help?

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Posted 02/25/2023   3:28 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add DavidR to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Evening all, this is the last of a group of early Russian stamps I need to identify. Managed all the others, between my SG Russia catalogue and Google. Does anyone know where this one sits? Hope this isn't catalogue blindness again! Thanks in advance.
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Posted 02/25/2023   3:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's a zemstvo from Imperial Russia, series 1906-1915.
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Posted 02/25/2023   4:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DavidR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Cjd. That explains it! As this is a local post my catalogue doesn't include this series. Google image also failed me this time. Any idea what area it comes from within Russia, or was it a 'general' issue?
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Posted 02/25/2023   4:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kotelnich. That said, I'm having a hard time matching yours to the listings in Chuchin or Soloviev. I'm seeing lilac rose, aniline rose, pale red. Maybe someone else with access to resources can chime in. Or maybe that will give you more fodder for the G@@gle monster.
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Posted 02/25/2023   4:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DavidR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again!
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Posted 02/25/2023   4:05 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Had me beaten,
I can usually pick these up, with searching my "Coat of Arms" database
but the scan was poor
One of those stamps, that looks so familiar, but you just can't place it.

Any members have a clear scan of this one?
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Posted 02/25/2023   4:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This particular stamp may be the single worst image in all of Chuchin, and Soloviev's is way oversaturated and "blobby".

I don't have a list of what I own, so I'll just have to dig through them. Which I'm happy to do tonight. I don't mind having an excuse to look at them.
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Posted 02/25/2023   4:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There was a series of Zemstvo frames in EXPONET a few years ago,
alas, I cannot find a "search" button there
http://www.exponet.info/index.php?lng=EN
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Edited by rod222 - 02/25/2023 4:20 pm
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Posted 02/25/2023   4:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
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Posted 02/25/2023   4:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That's probably it Collin (Mind boggling)
I think now in the Czech Postal Museum in Prague.
Will take some scrolling through that lot.
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Edited by rod222 - 02/25/2023 4:35 pm
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Posted 02/25/2023   4:35 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Kotelnich is found on pages 136-138, but only older issues are pictured. (I think that's the only place Kotelnich appears...the exhibit is rather impenetrable for me due to the language barrier.)


ETA: clarity
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Edited by Cjd - 02/25/2023 4:37 pm
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Posted 02/25/2023   4:49 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks !

For the record
Not mine


Author : "Falschung" July 2016 The Stamp Forum
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Posted 02/25/2023   5:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lest you think I was overstating the lack of usefulness of the Chuchin image, here it is, with the two prior issues included for an example of what most look like:



(And it looks better as a scan than in hand.)

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Posted 02/25/2023   5:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Aha! Thanks.
So I would not have gotten that "Arms"
Hand coming down from the clouds, with a bow, about to loose an arrow
Underneath an Urn with a handle

With David's image, I thought it was a "Lion Rampant" over a blindfolded person
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Edited by rod222 - 02/25/2023 5:54 pm
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Posted 02/25/2023   5:59 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DavidR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
That last image has nailed it Cjd! Mine appears to be 22, the aniline-rose.
If I ever get on the Trans-Siberian Express I will make sure I look out for Kotelnich, it is on the route apparently. Thanks for all the help and info.
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Posted 02/25/2023   6:02 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I would have had it at #23 Red (bordering on vermilion)

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