Dwi Scott 11 Normal? Arabesque

Gentlemen,
The full scan is of a DWI 12 cent and the corner scan is of the same stamp rotaed 180 degrees so as better to show the arabesque.
The stamp is, I assume, normal but it sure seems to be close to being inverted. Am I being foolish and picky?
Michael367





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Top Left Corner
Left Normal Right Inverted




Inverted frame

Looks like Scott 11 (Facit 11a) with thin inverted frame. Scott value is $175, Facit value is about $225. Since the only variety Facit gives for this stamp is "wtih thick normal frame" (which is not the case here), I would guess that thin normal and thin inverted frames are equally normal for this stamp. Pity that corner perf is missing.

it's NOT facit 11a, this is 2nd print.. so it would be 11b - neither 1st nor 2nd print could have inverted frame.

trying to catalogue danish or danish bicolored with facit will get wrong results most of the time since it's based on colors - which is determined by the eye of the beholder and we all interpret colors differently.

print 1 in a strip of 3
the same strip next to a print 2

Wow! I am a toddler in a university. Thank you. Should I assume there is no Scott number and that this is a variety Scott does not bother with?
Michael

wouldnt know about scott, but it's not a variety, it's simply just 2nd print... perforation suggest it to be 1st vertical row (position 1, 11, 21 and so on) and there is a "variety" in position 41 that has a thick east frame, but the copy I have and the copy from the sheet in the postal museum looks different than yours..

provided with a better picture I could perhaps plate it.

Well there you go...this thread needs a plate-able scan...




(I love Facit for Sweden. I wish I didn't know that it was deficient for Denmark.)

Well, to me colors of both prints as shown by Sorsh look different from the colors on the initial scan in this thread. It is difficult to judge color variety of a single scanned stamp without being able to compare it with other stamps scanned by the same device in same conditions.

What's the best specialized catalog for Denmark? AFA? The AFA catalog I've seen (don't remember, what year) had no English translations (which is a big minus when one needs to read detailed descriptions, while guessing the meaning of Danish words on the basis of your knowledge of German can be misleading), and values in it were in Danish kronen (a currency that substantially fluctuates against the USD).

the best catalogue for denmark is AFA specialized catalogue, but yes it does not have an english translation.
if it had existed online, you could have used a translater.

i don't know about SC or SG.

as for colors, which Tvorog points out, they all look different, which is exactly why facit comes up short. as we all interpret colors in our own way.

print 1 is weak, pale grayish purple, with an emerald green oval.
print 2 is stronger in the purple with a yellowish green oval.

the frame vary alot, the oval is often the best way to tell them apart if you're not schooled in bicolours because print 1 is "maingroup 1,2 and 3" and print 2 is only "maingroup 4"..