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Cabinda , Angola ---Provisional Issues

 
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Posted 01/19/2017   11:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add floortrader to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Here is a new country page in my collection . First I found no philatelic information about this Portuguese Terrority. Angola claims it as theirs and a war has been going on for 41 years ,a very low level war but still called a war .
These stamps are Cinderella stamps made by a collector with a rubber stamp or are they issued by the exile Cabinda Revolutionary Government in Europe ,I am not sure . This separatist insurgency is waged by the Liberation of the Enclave of Cabinda [F.L.E.C.} against the government of Angola .



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Posted 01/19/2017   2:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Climber Steve to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
F.T.: you already know this, but for those who don't, the Cabinda enclave is the former Portuguese Congo. P. Congo issued stamps from 1894 through 1915, when Congo stamps were replaced by those of Angola. I have a near complete collection of P. Congo major varieties; #1 to #138 & P1; missing only the rarity, Scott #118, that was not regularly issued.

In the 1960s, there were several revolutionary groups fighting the Portuguese and they turned on each other at the time of independence in 1975. I did know this low level insurgency is still somewhat active. But yours are the first stamps I've seen marked 'Cabinda.'
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Posted 01/26/2017   09:49 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Climber Steve to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
FT: no one else has commented on your post. Might I ask where you got these stamps? Thanks.
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Posted 01/26/2017   10:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Steve ---I purchase the bulk of James CZYL Cinderella collection thru four different stamp auctions that Regency had 2 years ago . They came in one of the many lots .
Once I got the lots into some kind of order then worked on sections one at a time . There is a possibility that more will be found as I process the box lots .
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Posted 01/26/2017   3:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Climber Steve to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks FT. I was thinking the Cabinda overprints may have come from the your acquired Czyl collections. Looking forward to seeing your further postings of the Czyl material as you continue to process it.
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I was following some of the Czyl lots on ebay.

Floortrader - let me know if you come across any "Rotuma" overprints on Fiji stamps. I have some a acquired a while back but can't seem to find them.
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I think the Czyl material is just homemade bogus - he was none too choosy. The issue above was prepared by Clive Feigenbaum (ex Stanley Gibbons CEO) at the request of the Front for the Liberation of State of Cabinda (FLEC). Clive overprinted them on old stock of illegal Angola issues he had on hand. The FLEC issue never saw postal duty. Amazingly, they were then forged on other completely bogus issues of Angola by some Belarus outfit.
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Feigenbaum was never far from bogus issues. He seems to have been rather murkily involved in quite a few of these, for example the "Dhufar" and "State of Oman" cinderellas.
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"he was none too choosy" Jim Czyl was a serious Cinderella collector and exhibited and wrote various articles about Cinderella Stamps so the thinking is and the same as mine,that you have to collect everything .

I collect forgeries it also applies here ......you buy everything ......lets get some facts out .....There has not been a good book to explain all these new forgeries that are now floating around .....none yes! none of the experts who come on this chat board knows anything about all these new fakes if they can't find someone's else website that details them .....all they are ....is experts at finding websites and reading catalogs ......Jim was a different bred he bought the Cinderellas and researched them and then wrote about them . I bought a lot of those cheap fakes off ebay and not happy about spending money on junk . But somewhere in the future on this chatboard someone is going to ask a question about them .A reference source is needed .Jim was a major reference point on everything Cinderella .
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Posted 09/06/2018   9:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jonlevy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
See this months American Philatelist - fantastic article about what we are talking about - see author's website too http://golowesstamps.com/reference/...Printers.htm
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Posted 09/06/2018   9:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jonlevy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I have been having fun with my stock of Cabinda:


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