Need Help With Cyrillic Stamps

I have these 3 bunch of stamps that I failed to recognise.
Any idea?
(ed) I've identified one -it's Bulgarian.
(ed2) Seems like the other two are Russian, from 1921.
Are these still considered Russian stamps, or Soviet stamps?

You can read about the Bulgarian stamp in this earlier thread:

https://goscf.com/t/20082

In my view, despite of the PCCP (RSSR) heading, that means "Russian Socialist Sovietic Republic", they should be considered "Soviet Union stamps". Or, at least, "Soviet Russia Stamps".

At first, Bolsheviks had this idea that it would look good if every Moscow-controlled Soviet Republic would issue it's own stamps (Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan did so in 1920s). Immediately after October Revolution of 1917 these Caucasian countries tried to become truly independent, and their governments issued their own stamps but then Joseph Jugashvili (Stalin) was despatched there by Lenin to bring these republics under Bolshevik control, which Stalin did using his notorious bloody methods.

During these years Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic (RSFSR) issued its stamps separately (though Belarus was gobbled up by the Soviet Russian postal system almost from the beginning; independent Ukraine managed to issue its own stamps for a year or two, then its government in exile and Western Ukraine issued some stamps but that enterprise was short-lived). Your two shown stamps are from this RSFSR period. In 1923, Soviet Union was officially formed, and Moscow was put in charge of running the whole Soviet postal system.

So, strictly speaking, stamps of the USSR begin in 1923, and stamps from 1917 to 1922 are those of RSFSR. All catalogs list Russian Empire, RSFSR and USSR under "Russia". Early independant and Soviet Caucasian Republucs (Armenia, Georgia, Azerbaijan) are usually listed separately.

Stamps of the various short-lived postal authorities of the Civil War era (1917-1919) are usually listed as back-of-the-book under Russia but there are irregular exceptions (Siberia, Far Eastern Republic, etc.) in Scott and some other catalogs, which, IMO, are rather illogical; it would be more convenient if they were all gethered as Russian BOB.

Your Bulgarian stamp is a not issued stamp belonging to the otherwise issued 1917-1919 set (Scott has a small note about it under the listing of this set).

Thank you all guys. You've been great help.
As for the logic of what order to set my stamps, you, guys, are the people I talk/corespond with, not Scott or Michel or Gibbons, so it's your logic that I'll consider.
Indeed, RSFSR makes sense to be with USSR.
In this aspect, next to which postal entity will you place Tannu Tuva, Manchukuo, German occupied territories? With USSR, Japan and Germany? Or with the countries that are there now days?

Rob Roy, I can not tell you what to do, but I can tell you what I did. For years, ever since I was a child I collected Netherlands and Colonies. One of those colonies was the Dutch East Indies. During WWII the Japanese occupied the Dutch East Indies and issued several stamps. I collect these as an extension of my Netherlands, but one could just as well collect them with a Japanese collection. So it all depends.


Peter

Indeed, each with his own logic. It's helpful for me to see how other collectors saw things. I placed them all with Indonesia, or next to, depicting what that region, and it's habitants, went through.
This also gives me a glimps of cultural influences on that place.
The same way, I placed all the colonialist stamps of Somalia - near Somalia, and the same for South Africa.

I don't know. If you ask a Russian he will tell you that there is not difference between Russia and the Soviet Union. It's like trying to separate English stamps from Great Britain stamps.

Would you place British India, British Honduras, British Burneo and British protectorats worldwide next to GB?

Tannu Tuva was a Stalin's puppet state before it has been absorbed by the Soviet Union. Most of the catalogs, however, list it separately. I, for one, follow catalogs while placing my stamps, just because it simplifies finding them later.

Manchukuo was a Japanese puppet state, but again, catalogs usually list it separately. It is popular among both Chinese and Japanese collectors.

German occupied territories are listed sepatately by Scott (except "offices" in other countries), and as back-of-the-book in Michel Deutschland catalogs, which integrate everything that has to do with Germany in one huge "German area" (which is kind of convenient despite being somewhat nationalistic). I place them in additional stockbooks after German States and 19th-century Reich.

I never use printed albums (waste of money, IMO, and no space for varieties). I place stamps in black-page stockbooks, one line per each major catalog number and per each major shade and variety, used on one end of the line, unused on the opposite end. It makes for a lot of stockbooks but, as I collect 19th century only, their number is manageable. Unusual method, I know, but it gives me enough space for everything, it is very easy to move stamps around, and I can see very quickly, where I have duplicates to sell, and what lines are empty.

Each to his taste, especially in stamp collecting.

Indeed you're right, and if I get to have a bigger collection, and enough space, time and money, I'll try your way for some of my stuff.

Rob, I was talking about Russia itself. Separating Russia from the Soviet Union is like separating England from Great Britain.