Unhinged Vs Hinged On Attached Margin Paper

I recently purchased a single stamp online that has margin paper still attached to the upper/top perforated edge of the stamp.

The stamp was advertised to be Mint, never-hinged. And when turing the stamp over there has never been a hinge attached to the stamp itself.

However, there is a hinge remnant on the margin paper I mention above.

So, the question is, does this still count as never-hinged, since the hinge remnant is technically not on the stamp itself, but on the margin paper?

Thanks.

mint never hinged, hinge remnant top selvage.

o.g. mnh, h.r. top selvage

For me the stamp is mnh.

Agree - the stamp itself is still mint / never hinged. Another good reason not to ever take the selvage off a stamp.

Peter

Thank you for the quick replies. This helps.

It is MNH, but it can get tricky when dealing with plate number imprint strips or plate blocks. In those cases the hinging must be above the gum line to be NH.

According to my 2014 Scott Specialized U.S. catalog.

"Never Hinged Plate Blocks: Values given for never-hinged plate blocks are for blocks in which all stamps have original gum that has never been hinged and has no disturbances, and all selvage, either gummed or ungummed, has never been hinged." (page 35)

Please let me know if this description has changed in Scott in the last couple of years.

In my mind the only reason that it wouldn't be considered NH is if the selvage itself is important, such as a plate block or plate# single, souvenir sheet, etc. I've purchased souvenir sheets before that were described as NH, with the stamps themselves being NH but with hinge marks somewhere else on the sheet. To me, that's not an accurate description. If a souvenir sheet is sold as NH there shouldn't be any hinge marks anywhere on the sheet, whether on the stamps themselves or the selvage. If you're talking a single stamp with blank selvage, I'd still consider the stamp NH in that case.

2016 Scott Specialized still has the exact same statement for "plate blocks" as the 2014 catalogue. No hinging or disturbance in the selvage.

This is in response to a question by Dry Tech.

But the original question was about a single stamp with attached selvage. I think that the seller should have mentioned that the selvage has been hinged. But the stamp itself is still MNH. The OP is free to complain to the seller, if unhappy, but is unlikely to get very far.

Thank you redwoodrandy for answering my question. The reason I asked is that occasionally I will see a seller on ebay list a plate block as NH with hinging in the selvage only. I can't remember where I saw this so can't provide an example.