Sweden Scott #j11 Or J22, Postage Due Perf 13-1/2 On Three Sides And Perf 13 On One Side?

today I perf tested numerous sweden postage due stamps,and come across a 1Kroner stamp with a perf difference.

sweden scott #J11 Or J22,postage due perf 13-1/2 on three sides and perf 13 on one side? both unwmk.does anybody have an idea why this stamp has a perf difference? there is a 1874 series and a 1877-86 series.



and also the stamp has other errors such as the seperation of the "blue & bister portion of the subject stamp..off by quite a margin.. does anybody know?<plus I re-scanned the images because something was on my scanner><i cleaned my scanner>

reason could be wear on needles /new needles.

the shifted imagine is because in this era, a printing machine could only do one colour at a time, so they had to do one side, then put wait for it to dry, clean the machine, make a new blend of colour and do the other side..

irregularities comes from the way the clichés where placed in the frame ( most likely copperplates fastend on lead"feet"(for danish stamps this is the case, not completely sure about swedish process) And sometimes they're slightly to one side.
or from the way the paper was placed, some sheets slightly to one side.. you also see them with the blue on top of the brown or other way around.

the same is true for all bi coloured stamps of this time.. russia, denmark and so on.

Jay Smith & Associates a Scandinavian Philatelic professional says this about the stamp. He specializes in Sweden Stamps..

Edw_Kim..Thanks for your email and the image.

Unfortunately, I don't see the error to which you refer. The poor registration of the blue vs brown is completely normal. I don't see anything doubled -- just not well aligned (but typical).

I think if you measure perforations again, perhaps with a different type of gauge, you will find that it is just a normal 13 x 13. The only options are 13 x 13 vs 14 x 14, but based on both the image and the type of postmark, it looks like a 13 x 13.

note-this being typical is not a correct reply as far as I am concerned.Jay Smith would have to show me (numerous) examples of not very well aligned(but typical) stamps similar to my subject stamp..

That's very generous of Jay to reply in detail. He's always been one of the good guys among dealers.

I checked my Sweden when I got home just to confirm before I replied.

Sorsh is correct, the mis-registration is all over the place (sometimes overlap, sometimes gap, sometimes near perfect). I've even got an example where the "gap" increases as you go down the diagonal from top right to bottom left.

I would also say that Jay is correct, that misalignment is typical. Even if I didn't go check to confirm, I would readily defer to Jay. He's got a LOT of experience and knowledge in this area.

There's a fine line between poor color registration (collectible as an oddity, but usually decreases retail value) and a major color shift (premium above normal value). In most (not all cases), there really needs to be a color shift of at least 2-3 mm before a premium might kick in. Less than that, it's collectible but not necessarily higher retail value.

Regarding your perforation measurements. I had to rotate your picture, but your stamp is the perf 13 variety. Adjacent sides are indeed not identical -- this may be why you are getting a different measurement for one of the sides. The left/right sides have a slightly higher perf gauge than the top/bottom, but opposite sides match perfectly. Although measurable/noticeable, it's not a significant difference. Perhaps there may have been some paper shrinkage along one direction? Your thoughts, Sorsh?

I'm in the "that was a gracious gesture on the part of Jay Smith" camp. He was generous enough with his time in sharing his information with you. It isn't realistic to expect him to go further, when he is not getting paid to expertize something.

(I assume I'm correct in assuming that he wasn't being paid.)

great topic stamp.i figured another <JACKPOT> found in my collection.

notes-will someone out there please send pics of others similar?
i would widley apprieciate that!

With regards to the perforation, you did not state which side you felt was the anomalous perforation. I will assume it was either the top or the bottom, as they have a slightly lower perf gauge than the left/right sides.

In the picture below, I have rotated your scan, pasted a copy of the top row of perforations next to the bottom perforations. As you can see, they match, so they are the same perf gauge.

I'll try to scan a misregistration from my collection when I return late tonight. But as stated by 2 others, it's pretty typical and not substantial enough to warrant a premium.

khj..please send a photo or two as practical proof?

just for "gp" I uploaded the collection page this stamp originated from
again a 1940s scott internation addition.many great stamps on this page.including the subject stamp.in 2016 I made an offer(to sell)to jay smith regarding this series/he has a copy of this page.jay declined to purchase this assortment!

Jay Smith buy policy.

http://www.jaysmith.com/Buying/We-Buy-Stamps.html

Jay Smith expertizing.

http://www.jaysmith.com/expertizing.html#QUICK

redwoodrandy..i emailed jay smith in 2016 and told jay I decided to keep my sweden postage due stamps after all.

I hope you also thanked him for giving his expert opinion on your bicolor. There are quite a few big name dealers who wouldn't have bothered.

He declined to purchase because he has plenty of those stamps in VF+ sound condition. The stamps on your page, while some may have decent catalog value, are of lesser grade and I can already see several with faults. Stamp values drop significantly with lesser grade/condition.

I'm back home, I'll try to pull a couple and scan them. But honestly, we are not fooling you -- minor misregistration on the bicolor issues is pretty typical. I'm not an expert, but Jay and Sorsh are experts/specialists. If they tell you have a typical bicolor, then you've got a typical bicolor. I'll scan a couple later, not to prove it to you, but to show the 2 basic types of misregistration stated by Sorsh (overlap, separation) as a reference for other forum members.