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Do You Use Vario Pages - And How Do You Organize Your Stamps On Them?

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Posted 01/01/2018   3:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've been preparing pages for Macau. The Ceres issues of some Portuguese colonies have quite a lot of varieties, including perforation varieties, paper varieties and not least the peculiar varieties of configurations of the stars (in the legend field). My Scott Classic specialized does not list these varieties at all, it's only listing 41 different Ceres stamps for Macau. Mundifil, on the other hand, gives quite another picture, I've included about 200 different Ceres stamps from Mundifil in my set-up. Vario pages are great for housing this multitude of varieties. Here's some sample pages for how I organised them:








(btw - Mundifil is for some reason only using Major catalog numbers, so the sub-numbers on my ID tags are not actually from Munidil but something I made up myself in order to list the varieties in the database)
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Posted 01/01/2018   4:54 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Impressive effort.

I use Afinsa for the star positions, but I'll have to circle back, because I think you've identified many more than Afinsa lists? Or my memory is fuzzy. (Or both.)
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Posted 01/01/2018   5:00 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Renden to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
You are doing big work in preparation for those Macao (Macau) stamps - Obrigado for sharing and cannot wait to see your stamps when the project is completed !
Rene
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Posted 01/02/2018   06:02 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks guys!


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I think you've identified many more than Afinsa lists?

That's odd. I didn't even show all varieties in the selected sample pages above, but they are all defined in Mundifil. I don't have a Afinsa, but as far as I know the Mundifil is based on Afinsa (?). My catalog is from 2015, maybe they've added more varieties since your catalog was issued? I can send you a full list of the Macau Ceres varieties (from my database) if your curious to compare.


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You are doing big work in preparation for those Macao stamps ...cannot wait to see your stamps when the project is completed

Yeah, the preparations took far longer time than actually transferring the stamps! Used 3-4 nights for establishing the database (which generates the ID tags), plotting the set-up and inserting ID tags. However the limited amount of stamps I actually have was transferred in a few hours....so I'm afraid my sparsely populated pages are not much to look at That doesn't bother me much though, as completion or filling the pages is not my goal in it self, but rather the satisfaction of having a working system for housing all those varieties.




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Posted 01/02/2018   11:14 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DJCMHOH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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..completion or filling the pages is not my goal in it self, but rather the satisfaction of having a working system for housing all those varieties.


Exactly my thought process. I may not ever fill every space but at least I will have space should fortune shine on me.

Working on my Australia database (using Stampmate 2015) and I have finished data entry up to the end of George VI reign, based on listings in Gibbons "Australia" and the Brusden-White "Australian Commonwealth Specialist Catalog"

Summary of Listings :

Kangaroo & Map Defins : 261
Kangaroo & Map Officials : 285
King George V "Sideface" Defins : 472
King George V "Sideface" Officials : 333
King George V era commemoratives/airmails : 55
King George VI era defins : 194
King George VI era commemoratives/airmails : 70
Postage Dues (includes Elizabeth II era) : 332

Here's sample of listings for the 1/2d Orange (Scott #20, Gibbons #56, Michel # 29, ASCS #66)



currently I'm working on filling in the info for Michel and Scott numbers for these issues, then its on to pre-decimal currency Elizabeth II.

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Posted 01/02/2018   3:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow, what a large number of varieties of those early Aussies! It seems like an enormous undertaking to get that registered, including cross-reference to all those cats. Well done.

I am not familiar with Stampmate - I wonder if its possible for others to benefit from that huge work you've accomplished? Or do each user need to register stamps varieties manually (beyond what is available to import from the web)
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Posted 01/02/2018   7:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Cjd to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
There are more "star" varieties referenced in Afinsa than I recalled, at least for Macau. Many of the lines in the catalogue combine as many as four varieties onto one line.

Some of the other colonies have a fraction of Macau's total. Tete, for instance, only lists about 32 varieties?
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Posted 01/02/2018   7:39 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DJCMHOH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Blaamand - I could probably send you the base files then you would load them in the file where Stamp Mate saves created databases. I don't *think* a database file is tied only to one user, but would have to test that to know for certain.

But check out Stamp Mate, it really is a wonderful, very flexible program. (My last blog post on my blog has a lot of info on it.)

And yes it has been a lot of work, but I learn a lot about what is out there to collect beyond just the basic catalogs.

So far I have done mainly French areas :

Morocco
Algeria
Tunisia
Senegal
Ivory Coast
Benin/Dahomey

Australia is the current project, and much bigger than these French colonial-post colonial ones were. But I want to get the collections I inherited from my father finally organized so working on those areas next (Australia, New Zealand, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, Papua New Guinea, and Canada & USA).

I figure if I can get all that done this year, I will be doing well.
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Edited by DJCMHOH - 01/02/2018 7:40 pm
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Posted 01/02/2018   7:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DJCMHOH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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There are more "star" varieties referenced in Afinsa than I recalled, at least for Macau. Many of the lines in the catalogue combine as many as four varieties onto one line.

Some of the other colonies have a fraction of Macau's total. Tete, for instance, only lists about 32 varieties?


I think part of the reason some colonies have more varieties than others is due to number of printings each value had. So for Macao, with a larger demand for postage stamps, values had to be reprinted a few times, and that results in the differing positions of the stars. A small colony like Tete with little postal traffic would have less reprinting of values, so less opportunities for the different varieties of star alignments to come about.

At least, that is my theory
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Posted 01/03/2018   06:05 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah you're right cjd, very different number of varieties for each colony - luckily - or unfortunately - however one want to look at it... Portuguese India seems to be the worst in the lot! I agree in your theory DJCMHOH I don't have Mundifil cat for Portugal proper yet so I don't know exactly the situation for Portugal, but would presume they have lots of these varieties at well (?).


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I could probably send you the base files

Thanks for the generous offer DJCMHOH, but I do not think I have capacity/time to dive that deep into details on these as you do. I am trying to limit myself 'somewhat' I was more interested in the possibilities of Stamp mate program itself. If the data you have entered is only stored on your PC - or if your data gets stored in a public database, so other users could access directly without needing to import data sent from the person that made them ?
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Posted 01/03/2018   09:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add DJCMHOH to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Blaamand - I believe data is just stored on my PC. as I note in my blog you can import data directly from Col_nect and that can serve as a base from which you can add more listings in your own personal Stamp Mate file.
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Posted 01/04/2018   07:42 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Blaamand to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks, I was afraid so. So all the work you done would need re-done by anyone else interested in the same data.
I believe these sites would benefit big time - and stamp collectors WW - if anyone's data could be imported to a common database - and made available for all. Guess it's the catalog issuers copyright issues that are blocking this. Would probably be a much too common-sense solution
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Posted 02/24/2019   10:57 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add BattleshipRB23 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
@Blaamand:

I really like your Vario page layout and labeling. Very well done good sir.

If it is not too much trouble, would you please kindly share the cell height and width that you are generally using to make your labels in Excel for the 6, 7, and 8-pocket stock pages. Thank you and respects.

Blaamand posted 04/15/2017 3:32 pm
(https://goscf.com/t/53933&whichpage=2#469999)

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I simply print on white 'safe' paper.

For my previous tags I used borders/frames around each tag to assist with cutting, using scissors. However I have learned that using borders or frames simply makes things more complicated than doing without the borders. So instead of having borders and cutting with a pair of scissors - I do not use borders anymore and do not use scissors anymore either. I cut the entire sheet in one operation by using a breakaway razor knife guided by a metal straightedge (metal ruler).

Click to see a Larger Image!

To facilitate this I have equipped the sheets (tags-printout) with some small 'guiding lines' at each left and right margin - and some very small 'guide dots' vertically. Then I place the straightedge according to these and cut through the entire sheet, but keeping the outer white frame intact to keep everything in place until I have cut both vertically and horizontally.
This goes much quicker than using scissors - and the results get much more precise. And finally there are no borders, so the tags will also be more forgiving if one should happen to be imprecise, as there are no borders to indicate if the centering was not that good...
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Posted 02/25/2019   05:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I use Vario pages to organize and layout a page, prior to printing a page. I saves wasted a load of wasted paper and permits easy shifting of material. It also helps if I am undecided on how complex I want to make a page. Again, it permits easy layout and shifting or material, especially where Stampless[ds are being interspersed with covers or other related postal history; i.e, documents, letters; photos, and so on.

They also help immensely in the layout, organization and arrangement of perforation studies and color studies. It allows for the insertion of notes, diagrams and art prior to the first page being printed. It saves much much wasted paper.
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