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Australia Sg 77 1˝d Red KGV Sideface Second Watermark

 
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Posted 05/09/2017   4:34 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add itma to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
This variety (a weakness close to the bottom of the left frame) -



- exists on all of the stamps in the following image.



It looks as if this variety is too minor to be included in any catalogues. Does anybody know which electro/position this comes from?
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Posted 05/12/2017   6:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One of the things that a KGV collector has to sort through is the printing errors called a "Tin Shed".

A Tin Shed is what they printed most of the earlier prints in. At times they printed on the footpath outside the shed because it was to cold inside and in the heat the gum on the printing paper would curl up making it very hard to feed the paper into the printing machine.

So a "Tin Shed" printing flaw is a term used for all printing flaws that were not constant printing flaws. A piece of lint or other small object stopped the ink in some sort of way in the printing process.

A lot of KGV printing flaws came from rats chewing on the printing plates to the metal corroding etc.

Always Happy Stamping. kg5
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Posted 05/12/2017   6:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Your stamps with clear dates on them are the most expensive at 1st sight.The stamps print being well centered also increases the value of your stamp.

All the single watermarks or the second watermarks are in the higher value printings.

It is great fun looking for printing flaws or flyspecking.
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Posted 05/13/2017   09:45 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add itma to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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It is great fun looking for printing flaws or flyspecking.


Thanks for your comments, KG5. Yes, these KGV sidefaces are a lot of fun. So, yes, it's very happy stamping!



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So a "Tin Shed" printing flaw is a term used for all printing flaws that were not constant printing flaws


Well, if the stamps in my picture are not a constant electro flaw, I don't know what is. The original of the group photo were scanned at 1200dpi. I always scan at this resolution (the highest on my Epson Perfection V550) just in case I want to look at something in greater detail later. With this resolution, I can blow the picture up so that the bottom of the stamp is displayed across the width of my monitor without significant loss of quality. Measuring up from the bottom of the frame, the top of the fault was was at 20mm in all cases. And these stamps had postmarks ranging over about 9 months.

I can't take any credit for finding all these. They were in a packet from my father which I haven't looked at in 50 years or more. I have to wonder how he spotted them all - his eyes must have been pretty sharp at the time.
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Posted 05/13/2017   11:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add langtounlad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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One of the things that a KGV collector has to sort through is the printing errors called a "Tin Shed".

A Tin Shed is what they printed most of the earlier prints in. At times they printed on the footpath outside the shed because it was to cold inside and in the heat the gum on the printing paper would curl up making it very hard to feed the paper into the printing machine.

So a "Tin Shed" printing flaw is a term used for all printing flaws that were not constant printing flaws. A piece of lint or other small object stopped the ink in some sort of way in the printing process.

A lot of KGV printing flaws came from rats chewing on the printing plates to the metal corroding etc.

Always Happy Stamping. kg5


This reply does not reflect current opinion of experts in Australia. Here is an extract from ACSC explaining the Tin Shed Flaw




And here is a photo of a printer of the era from Kaygeevee at Stampboards




I seriously doubt that this machine could be dragged out onto the footpath and it would take so long to dismantle and re-assemble as to make such a suggestion ridiculous.

And to suggest that rats chewed metal plates is absurd - again an extract from ACSC



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Frank
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Posted 05/14/2017   12:00 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Nice post Frank, a keeper, thank you.

An observation on Australian rats, many years ago, saw evidence in a abandoned homestead, a stainless steel trough pitted and holed by what we believed to be
stick nest rat urine. Mighty powerful stuff.

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Posted 05/14/2017   05:43 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add KGV Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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at Stampboards
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Posted 05/14/2017   9:30 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Aussie Al to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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at Stampboards


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Posted 05/16/2017   05:40 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add langtounlad to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Aussie Al

KGV Collector seems to be questioning my source of information. However he is mis-quoting me as I attributed the picture above to "Kaygeevee at Stampboards". Kaygeevee is not only a member of the RPSV (Royal Philatelic Society of Victoria) but he is also acknowledged in ACSC KGV 2014 as a contributor.

I use the best sources I can find when quoting as I find the back of corn flake packets to be unreliable.

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If my comment or lack of comment has become an issue I apologise fully. But I am tried of getting threads locked up because of this issue I will briefly share.

The name stampboards still brings back very painful memories and that is what it is all about. Got so bashed there it is unreal. Bad, bad memories.Horribly simple as that.

So I got corrected fair enough. Great image of a printers printer from that time. 1st time I have seen one.

Maybe the perforater got a run outdoors. As the paper curling would fit. Had some great people explain things in my youth but that is a long time ago now and my memory fades. I am an isolated collector. Am not an person that can write a certificate of authenticity concerning Australia KGV's stamps.

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