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Anyone Have A Comment On These High Value FDC Ebay Sales?

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Posted 06/04/2017   10:53 am  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Phil_Atelic to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Did these US covers actually sell for the price indicated? Or is this just a seller gimmick to get buyers to look at their other items for sale?

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Posted 06/04/2017   11:07 am  Show Profile Check johnsim03's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add johnsim03 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Shill bidding? Total nonsense that anyone would possibly jump on those "deals."
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Posted 06/04/2017   2:01 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phil_Atelic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Having these covers, thought I might be 20 grand ahead... rofl!
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Posted 06/04/2017   2:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What about the sales fees that they have to pay to ebay for selling them?
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Posted 06/04/2017   2:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phil_Atelic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good question, is there a loophole around the fees for them after the fact, like if they say a buyer cancelled or didnt pay?
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Posted 06/04/2017   6:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add wtcrowe to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
If the item is never paid for you will, of course, get any sales commission refunded to your account, but not a listing fee. However, from time to time E-Bay offers sellers a deal on commissions. I received an e-mail from E-Bay today which offers "$5 final value fee per item for the first 5 sales of $50 or more. List by June 10". I got this because I haven't listed anything in the last 6 months and they would like my business. They offer other deals from time to time.
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Posted 06/04/2017   9:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Somebody is transferring large amounts of money, trying to make it look like a legitimate transaction rather than having a record via check, cashier's check, wire transfer, etc. There's still a record from Paypal (if that's how payment was made), and Paypal is probably more expensive than the other methods besides ebay fees.

Transactions of $10,000 or more must be reported by banks who put a hold on the funds besides. Two checks of $5k apiece sent on the same day (or nearly so) to the same person may or may not slide by, but they are still subject to this federal law. With the suspicious amounts paid, and paid repeatedly, someone is very obviously trying to get around this. But it is also quite obvious what they're doing, at least to those of us who know modern FDCs. One would think the FBI (or whoever) has computer programs in place to detect such shady-looking transactions, no matter the amounts used.
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Posted 06/04/2017   10:46 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Witch country is the sEller
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Edited by area66 - 06/04/2017 10:58 pm
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Posted 06/04/2017   10:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Well, both FDCs are reported as completed sales, and each would cost $750 just in the ebay final sales fee. Gee, cheapskate me would go to the mall, take a picture of a parked moped, list it under "Motor vehicles - Powersports under 50cc" and get charged a $10 final sales fee.

The seller is a stamp dealer with thousands of ebay sales, who has sold and sells other US FDCs at expected prices.
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Posted 06/04/2017   11:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Phil_Atelic to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply


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Posted 06/04/2017   11:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add area66 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It's quite obvious what happen in that case.
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Posted 06/05/2017   09:22 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add joe1225us to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
It's quite obvious what happen in that case.


What?
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Posted 06/05/2017   10:00 am  Show Profile Check KRelyea's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add KRelyea to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Here's his current offering;



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Posted 06/05/2017   10:24 am  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I've looked through his feedback and his 'about Me' write up. Nothing about him suggests someone who'd be involved in anything criminal. Could someone have hijacked his account for this purpose?
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Posted 06/05/2017   10:30 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add jogil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Maybe someone can ask him about what was so rare about the FDCs that they sold for so much.
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Posted 06/05/2017   12:13 pm  Show Profile Check Stamps1962's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Stamps1962 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
jogil I considered that but I am not the right person to send that message. I would perhaps come across other than intended. Still it'd be fascinating to see what if anything, he'd say.
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