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Posted 07/10/2021   09:56 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't acknowledged the various replies lately.

Frank (Itma), thanks for looking at my ACSC 99. It still confuses me as to whether it is a constant variety, but I'll keep looking for its twin.

Rod's comments on the ACSC 16(U)e are helpful. I'll send a copy off to Geoff for his use (if any).

And great research from Aussie Al and Rod on the latest 111. That bump on the Emu's back is a good match, but that scratch is annoying. Probably a plate wiping error that was later buffed out.

I'll post some others later. Thanks.
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Posted 07/10/2021   1:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Please advise how you go with Mr. Kellow.
No doubt very busy, but not heard any results from contact with him.

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Posted 09/06/2021   1:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'll have to say that Mr. Kellow is not too good at acknowledging emails. He is probably very busy and only addresses ones of significance.

Here is a new purchase. I identify it as Scott 2h, ACSC 4(K)d, White flaw below first A of Australia. However, my version has an additional flaw under the E of Postage and some other miscellaneous marks. It also has what appears to be double perforation on the right side, but it could also be a very rough tear. Any thoughts?


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Posted 09/06/2021   4:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Adams Bell Pope
First flaw
KL36 (7)b "shading below first A of Australia, breaks in line 1 and 2, 1mm from left frame. 3rd State.

Yours does not show this break, however the voided lines underneath the A, are identical to the catalogue image.(4kd)
Suggestion: Your stamp maybe 1st state (unbroken frame) or a possible 4th state (frame repaired?)

2nd flaw
Could be 1 of 2, I'd suggest the latter,
CL60 2nd state,
or
KL5 (6) shading between GE of Postage, line at base of GE missing with breaks in lines 1 and 2.
Yours appears more advanced.
My preference due to "Distinct narrowing of right frame"
as shown in your example.

(I failed to pick that up, myself)
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It also has what appears to be double perforation on the right side, but it could also be a very rough tear. Any thoughts?


Personal route regarding these, try to offer an image with another one penny abutted, so as to line up the perforation punctures.
This should give an idea if there are secondary punctures or tears.

Not au fait with double perforations on the one penny, but offer this
for consideration.

Sheets of official stamps were often those rejected for supply to the public due to mis alignment or mis perforation, so examples with double, triple or mis aligned punctures are relatively common.
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Posted 09/06/2021   4:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Personal route regarding these, try to offer an image with another one penny abutted, so as to line up the perforation punctures.
This should give an idea if there are secondary punctures or tears.


Perhaps Don could do his trick where he takes a slice of the left hand perfs, and abuts them on the right hand side.
(Never mastered that myself)
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Posted 09/06/2021   5:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hello Rod, and thanks for looking. However, you seem to be saying that I have two different positions, but all of the pictures are for just the one stamp. So I'm thinking 1st state or 4th state.

Here is my attempt to do the side-by-side comparison. It is pretty ugly. I think it is just the way the paper tore naturally ... no extra perforations.
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Posted 09/06/2021   5:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Steve,

Quote:
Here is my attempt to do the side-by-side comparison. It is pretty ugly. I think it is just the way the paper tore naturally ... no extra perforations.


Brilliant! Yep, I agree, not a double perf.

Regarding the flaws, very hard to isolate one particular plate location. The one penny has manifold flaws in all areas, and to compound that, there are the "states" of disrepair.

Personally, I would opt exactly as you say, ACSC 4(K)d with unknown state 1st or 4th, but add the adams bell pope ID for the Postage flaw for your records.
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Posted 09/06/2021   5:22 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Note: There is also a small notch in the Kangaroo's left leg.
I'll have a squizzy in the catalogue for you.

Possibly UCV53(4) Die ll
(Unlocated Constant Variety)

Small notch at top of Kangaroos left foot
Yours may be a second state of that, I can see a small notch appearing at your location, as well.

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This beauty just showed up. Scott 15 specimen, ACSC 55x. It appears Mint Never Hinged, though one perf at the top is a bit dicey from the back. Also, there appears to be a scratch that is not listed in my 2021 ACSC.


Here is the scratch:


And two back images:



Now I need to find just a few more Specimens to complete that area.
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Posted 09/08/2021   10:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The stamp is a cracker ! excuse the pun.

Lovely stamp ! Albeit I consider that a cracked cliche, rather than a
scratch.
Reasoning: Similar mark on 1d red, UCV91 (10) Die lla
(but totally different position)

Opinion only. Looking through my catalogues.

Interested: What colour do you ascribe to this stamp?

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I still think a scratch. A cracked plate is usually more jagged. I'm also going with Black and Rose, the standard color for this item. Since only about 2169 copies exist with Specimen overprint, I'm happy with the purchase.
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Posted 09/08/2021   11:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
£2 Subsidiary Information.
Electrotypes
In 1913 single plates were manufactured of 120 for the £2 and the Kangaroo Vignette.

Creations
20th March 1913, 120 electros, £2
Destructions
In stock 1st May 1925, 120 electros (£2)

Bib: Kangaroos, the last Victorian Issue, G.N. Kellow
isbn 0949177032

Published by Richard C Peck 1985

GN Kellow signed copy


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Hi Partime.
I thought that stamp looked familiar.
Have a look at the link to Pheonix auctions flaw finder and have a read of the descriptions for your stamp. VERY Interesting.



http://www.phoenixauctions.com.au/c...BC&minor=yes

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Sperati Forgeries
£2 Kangaroo
Author : Mr. Glen Stephens
Click image to enlarge.
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