Q About Scott And Stanely Gibbons

I have these stamps:




I'm using 2 simplified PDF style catalogs, SG-2014 & Scott-2013 that I just bought.

I identified the brown stamp as S-139 & SG-168, the other as S-167, SG-196.
(1) Am I right?

I posted the pages that I looked at - here:






(2) Is it normal that the actual image of the stamp won't be included in the catalog?
(3) Is the quality of these images normal for these catalogs? The seller claimed these are original files.

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Yes the images are fine . The catalogs have limited space and can't show each stamp in a set . Both catalogs do a fine job in showing as much as needed to identify a stamp ,what they can't do is show the fakes and forgeries like the Fiume which has as many as four different forgers on various stamps who duplicated the stamp,I am not including the first issue that has 12 or more different types of fakes .

Hello Rob Roy. As far as I can see the numbers that you mentioned are correct.

As Floortrader already mentioned, be aware Fiume is tricky.

If you want to see the 1921 series of the stamp on the right, search here on the SCF for Fiume 1921.

Kind regards,

Johan.

If I bought them in a pack of "1000 WW stamps" for 6 GBP (10 with shipment) - will it raise the chance of them being forgeries?

Also, regarding the catalogs, are Scott images usually so pale? I compared my images to another that I found online, and mine look much worse.

Not necessarily, there's no correlation unless it's an old packet and the seller was known to include forgeries. I find it interesting that a w/w packet like this today would even include Fiume! Made up of a collector's duplicates, perhaps.



The color is dropped out to show you the actual overprint better. Gibbons shows you the overprint style, not the actual overprint. Neither source can be trusted 100% to show you a genuine overprint.

Thanks for the input. From what I saw, it doesn't match a known forgery, so it might be a legit, especially since it's cat value is just a few bucks.

As for the sale being "a few 1000's WW" - it's not kiloware, and often the seller adds a few bonuses.
Yet, I have no clue what my recent seller (of 4000 stamps) was thinking, including several nice mint sets, together with hundreds of filler grade stamps. Was he thinking that the nice sets will blind me from seeing the confetti grade stamps?
He is up to a very bad feedback at ebay.

The left stamp is genuine. The 3 fakes I know of have very weak leaves at either side of the head.

Fiume stamps were cheap but elusive for many years, years ago. So this might have come from somebody's old duplicates. $4 Scott cat value for this stamp? Welcome to 2017, Mr. Rip van Winkle (me).



If the offering was simply "4000 stamps", that's actually better than the usual expected situation, which would be all filler grade stamps. Don't let yourself get spoiled by one good deal or one good dealer.