Stumped With Steiner Germany Page

I'm trying to mount my German collection on Steiner pages but have been stumped by the page for the 'post horn issues 1921-1922 perf 14x14.5' and the subsequent 'post horn,Numeral of value and plowing 1922-1923' listing.
I do not have a Scott catalogue, and the StampWorld site hasn't exactly helped.
Can anybody please tell me which post horn stamps go in the 1921-1922 listings and which ones in the 1922-1923 listings.
'post horn,Numeral of value and plowing 1922-1923' listing, there is a space for 6M and 8M types 1 and types 2 - what exactly am I looking for here?

Moose,
can you offer me the Steiner Page numbers please?

Guessing:
Possibly best way to tackle this, is to get the variations via
http://www.germanstamps.net/

Then fit them to the page:
This may help, (Steiner Page 14)
eg: the 2 x 6 mark blue issues, the "6" slant at different angles etc
Others have oft hard to distinguish colour variations. (easiest is the 20m violet, and violet and orange)

8 Marks ......... type I — Numerals 2½mm wide with thick strokes.
type II.........2mm wide with thinner strokes.

Rod222 many thanks for the quick reply, page is spot on, things seem to make more sense now.

Good luck then Moose,
I started with the 5 mark Orange first, then looked at all copies, and saw the ones with yellowish paper, the rest came easier.

The 6 Mark, I scanned all copies,
then toggled the images, to see the "6" dance around.

In addition to Rod's description of the 8 mark stamp. A picture of both types.

Thanks Johan, not seen that one before.

Here are some more comparisons of the 6m and 8m stamps from my http://bigblue1840-1940.blogspot.co...19-1940.html blog ...


1921-22 bi-colored "posthorn" values wmk network
1922-23 single color "posthorn" values wmk network
This pic of Deep Blue (Steiner) shows the "posthorns" of 1921-22 & 1922-23. All the stamps here are only found with the Network watermark, except for the 1921-22 2m,3m,and 4m values which can also be found with the Lozenges watermark from the 1921 issue.

If you looked carefully at the pic, you may have noticed two 6m and two 8m spaces. What is up with that?


1922-23 Scott 189a 6m dark blue Type I
1922-23 Scott 189 6m dark blue Type II
The "6"'s come in two types as illustrated above. The Type II "6"'s lean toward the right and are a bit thinner.


1922-23 Scott 190 8m olive green Type I
1922-23 Scott 190a olive green Type II
The single color "posthorn" "8"'s also come in two types. With Type II, the numerals are not as wide (2mm), and is thinner. I was able to find both the "6" and "8" numeral types by checking my feeder albums where they had sat unaware all these years.

This may be beating a dead horse, but here's my 2¢.

That series of pages can be difficult because neither Scott nor Steiner give much of an explanation. Here's are some references to my pages with photos of the relevant stamps for comparison. Because my pages are arranged by Michel, it's not an exact sequence, but you can see the Scott numbers if you click on the individual stamps.

Steiner page entitled "Numerals, Iron Workers and Other Designs / Watermarked Lozenges, Typographed, Perforate 14 / 1921" -- see here. These are all watermarked lozenges, so they should be easy to distinguish from the later issues.

Next Steiner page entitled "Numeral of value, Lithographed / 1922" -- see here.

Continuation of that page, entitled Numerals, Iron Workers and Other Designs / Watermarked Network, Typographed, Perforated 14, 14 1/2 / 1921-22" -- See the values up to 160 Pf on this page, with the addition of these issues.

Next Steiner page entitled "Post Horn / Watermarked Network, Typographed, Perforated 14, 14 1/2 / 1921-22" -- see here for the 2-4 Mark values, and here for the 5-40 Mark values. These posthorns are watermarked network, and are two-color (the background has a non-white underprint).

Continuation of that page entitled "Post Horn, Numeral of Value, Plowing / 1922-23" -- see the 2-40 Mark values here, and the 5-20 Mark values here. These posthorns are one-color (no colored underprint).

Nice work as usual, Jim.




Postmaster, your pages blow me away.
If Moose clicks on any particular stamp, he can see up close the colours.
Magic stuff.

Surprised to see you missing the inverted Ploughman issue.
I saw one up at a local auction about a month ago, I was going to email you,
Then I though "Pshaw" PM would have that one.
Cannot recall how well centred or pristine the example was.

Rod,

I've held off on buying one because I'm not entirely sure what I have in my inventory at the moment. I only recently started sorting through all my Imperial and Weimar-era stuff, and I have a couple massive collections that I picked up at auction which I still need to break down. The good news is that they aren't particularly hard to find, though they can be expensive.

Oh, and thanks for the compliment, Rod. I'm doing the best I can to make my collection a useful reference for others. One of these days I hope to get the entire collection scanned so I can go back and really expand the text sections.

And here's a little secret -- if you right click on the thumbnails and open the linked images in a new tab, you get the full-size (600 ppi) images instead of those that are shrunk slightly to fit into the pop-up lightbox with accompanying text.

Thanks for all the information guys, really appreciated.
I'm gonna have to take this nice and slow, maybe make some changes to the Steiner pages to add some varieties that I seem to have.
Postmaster, your pages are a treasure trove of information must have taken you ages to get everything together.

Rod,

You inspired me to look trough my stash, and guess what I found -- a copy of MiNr 196 I, the network watermarked version of the ploughman issue with inverted underprint.



It's a bit difficult to see, but here's the original for comparison.

Serendipity, Postmaster.
Bravo.
I employ the twigs left of the "D" for identification.

"Stash"...I like that word.