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All Forums Category: World Stamps and Covers Discussions Forum: World Classic Stamps Mint and Used

Identification Help 5 Mark Without Watermarked

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Italy

234 Posts

Posted 08/07/2017 09:56 am

good morning

You can help me identify this stamp

Salute Simone

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Netherlands

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Posted 08/07/2017 10:24 am

Hello Simone,

Are you sure about it having no watermark?

The stamps has 25:17 perforation holes which indicates the 1916/1917 issue, but this issue has a watermark.

25:17 perforation holes does not fit with any other issue as far as I know.

Kind regards, johan

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Posted 08/07/2017 10:37 am

Pisti, can you scan this after dipping it in fluid?

Peter

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Italy

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Posted 08/07/2017 11:18 am

follow the immages with lighter fluid

thx Simone

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Posted 08/07/2017 11:27 am

Quote:
can you scan this after dipping it in fluid?

Yes.

https://goscf.com/t/12246&SearchTer...g,watermarks

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France, Metropolitan

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Posted 08/07/2017 11:27 am

It could be a "Nachdruckbogen"/ Reprint

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United States

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Posted 08/07/2017 7:19 pm

The vignette does not look engraved to me from the scan. Any stamps of this design must be engraved. Please check this.

EDIT: The other point on these is that the 5m "Deutsches Reich" vignette designs (still) do not fit perfectly into the frame design and are not perfectly centered in the frame like this.

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Edited by hy-brasil - 08/07/2017 7:34 pm

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Posted 08/07/2017 9:24 pm

The Deutsches Reich 5M stamp with 25:17 perforation holes is either the wartime Michel 97 B II (watermarked), or it is a "reprint" (forgery).

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Italy

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Posted 08/08/2017 02:01 am

Thanks for the answers, I can feel it is a reprint or false, salute Simone

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