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Egypt Postage Due With T Overprint

 
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Posted 08/11/2017   8:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add Rob Roy to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hello
The stamp before overprinting was issued in 1921. Couldn't find in my Scott/SG simplified catalogues any indication of this overprint on this stamp. I saw "T" overprint on Belgian stamps. Does it mean the same?


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Posted 08/11/2017   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
T is French for Taxe, or postage due.

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Posted 08/11/2017   8:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From my understanding it is a UPU "Taxe" stamp for underpayment
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Posted 08/11/2017   8:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Looks more like a cancel than an overprint to me.
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Posted 08/11/2017   8:51 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
absolutely correct phil..I should have pointed that out
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Posted 08/11/2017   9:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I probably should have been a bit more clear. The T stands for Taxe, which is the French word for postage due. French was back in the day the official language of the UPU, hence the use of the letter T. And yes, it means the same as the T on the Belgian stamps. Also Swiss and so on.

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Edited by Petert4522 - 08/11/2017 9:14 pm
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Posted 08/11/2017   9:17 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thank you for the fast responses.
Peter, if the stamp was already a postage due, why was the "T" added?
Phill and Lawrence - if it's an ordinary cancellation, it is unusually centered, and you can see a regular cancellation over it that doesn't seem to integrate with it.
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Posted 08/11/2017   9:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I think the centering is just coincidental. and It was applied after the franking or original cancel.

With underpayment it was doubled as a fine or "Taxe" by the UPU agency and charged back to the original sender.
so 1 stamp to make up the postage due to the post office, the second was the fine for being underpaid, that is the second one...I hope I am making sense!

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Posted 08/11/2017   9:25 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Laurie 02 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
oh a paquebot from port Said!
nice cover Rod
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Posted 08/11/2017   9:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Petert4522 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
RobRoy, good question. I am not sure, but the term "postage due" was not used in French speaking areas. Even in other countries sometimes postage due stamps were overprinted with a T cancel. And I agree with Phil and Lawrence in that it is probably a cancel.

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Posted 08/11/2017   9:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
if it's an ordinary cancellation


Not a ordinary cancel, but a Taxe marking. Similar to the T on Rod's cover, but yours is on the stamp.

Nice cover Rod, very attractive mixed franking.
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Posted 08/11/2017   11:14 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Rob Roy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the discussion guys. So much knowledge from a single letter.
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