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R54A Can These Be Plated?

 
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Posted 08/11/2017   10:03 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add stampmaster to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Hi all

Was wondering if there is a way to plate R54a's?

I've never ventured into the area of plating, how is it done?

What is required (other than a lot of stamps)?

I've noticed on all R54's, the bottom figure "5" on "50" always show marks, are these marks useful when plating or are they ignored?

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Posted 08/12/2017   10:32 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add hy-brasil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
One of the experts here can tell you if R54 has a plating guide or not.


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I've never ventured into the area of plating, how is it done?

To start with, hopefully, someone has put together multiples and identifiable positions (e.g., margin copies) to reconstruct a sheet. Multiple plates require that much more work. A record of that work may be a descriptive list of individual markings on each stamp or a good photo or photos.

Then you match up distinguishing characteristics (like those noted below) to determine the plate position.


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What is required (other than a lot of stamps)?

If you plan to do plate reconstruction yourself, it will, with multiples being very helpful. Otherwise you just need a magnifier and a reference, as noted above. You also need a critical attitude that will not make you imagine things that aren't there or ignore things that are there.


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I've noticed on all R54's, the bottom figure "5" on "50" always show marks, are these marks useful when plating or are they ignored?

They are likely part of the information needed. Note also on yours there are two guide dots in the upper left corner margin. Blurs, double transfers, weak transfers, re-entries, recuts, etc. are all what's used to describe and determine a plate position.
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Edited by hy-brasil - 08/12/2017 10:34 pm
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Posted 08/13/2017   02:51 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi hy-brasil, thanks for the information.

Hopefully other members will also offer advice about my R54a.

Again thanks.

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Posted 08/13/2017   09:50 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add lackemacher to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, These can be plated easily with a copy of Steve Rorers book "Replating the 50 cent Conveyance". This is probably available from Eric Jackson. This stamp had 3 or 4 states as printing progressed into the perfed and silk stamps but the imperfs are all early state. The key is the position dots at the top. Note Late state has an additional position dot top left. The marks in the 5 are from the die and are not much help.
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Posted 08/13/2017   12:19 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi lackemacher, thanks for your help, I'll check out that book.

Understand the marks on the "5" are not much help.

The stamp in question is on a instrument with 3 other examples of r54a all singles. The instrument is dated 17 December 1862. I have for many years now tried in vane to determine if all four r54a's where in the original orientation connected with each other. I have not been happy with my attempts.

Perhaps this book will finally help in some way to determine with research on my parts.

I like the idea of researching my stamps. I only ask when after a long time (years) I'm unable to determine what ever my original question was.

Again, thanks

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Posted 08/13/2017   8:45 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stampmaster to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi all, my daughter suggested I show all 4 stamps, so here goes.

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