How Would You Grade The Centering Of This E12

Hi Newby Stamper, I want to I'm sorry for that remark "Call the guys with giant butterfly nets", as you know I did not say it, but want to say I'm sorry someone said it. I'll stand up and say sorry.

Please stay with us, I for one would like to see your other outstanding stamps, and ask away your questions. I encourage you to ask questions, more the better.

Again, stay we us, most of our members are up front and nice.

Stampmaster

Thanks eyeonwall for the reply. That's what I was wondering if there may damage to the stamp by doing the erasing of the lead. Like I said 8 had read about it in another thread.

Newby

Now for the rant that I went on. Please listen and read with an open mind please. The two replies to the post could of been worded a little less evasive. See different people have different perspectives on things that are written and spoken. Some people read between the lines as this is where you pick up on things that are said but put
in different context.

I felt/ read the reply and felt that I was being made fun of at my expense because I use the name Newby and to some point ask a dumb question to some. You have to admit the reply could be taken the wrong way. Im not hear to bibble babble or to joke or ridicule anyone. For me that is another time and place but I am here to read the many excellent post that is posted here along with learning from all of the knowledgeable people that post and take time out of their busy schedule to help answer questions and give advice to novice peoe like me. I've said it many times that there is no place like this place anywhere on the internet.

If the replies were not what they seem or meant i'll be the first to say Im sorry and I mean that. I'm a man and can step up to the plate with no problem. I'm sorry!

With all that said it is water running under the bridge for me and I hope it is with all y'all. I have many stamps and many questions which a lot of them are answered in some of the post that are or have been posted.

I like it here and do not want to cause trouble or make fun of anyone and hope not to make anyone here mad. But sometimes the dog bites if it thinks the cage is being rattled. Thanks to all of you and all the administration for having an open mind and having this site. It is really an awesome and unique place
I thank you.

Like I stated before it's all water under the bridge.
Now who wants to view pics and answer question?

Wow, people are seriously reading WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much into my previous post. It was humorous reply to Jim's post immediately above mine, and in no way referred to anything posted by anyone else.

Note to people new to the Interwebz: when someone posts a smiley at the end of their post, it usually means that what they are saying is not meant to be taken seriously.

Hey revenuecollector I'm not worried about it. It's water under the bridge dude. That's the past and I'm at the furture.
If I post I still would like for you to reply if you like. I think you are very knowledgeable about stamps. I have revenues that I'm sure I will ask about.
Nearby.

When I said the possibility of damaging the stamp by erasing - let me elaborate. If you use the wring kind of eraser (too hard or old) it can directly damage the stamp gum. The other issue is with the erasing technique - if you do it wrong you can end up creasing the stamp.

I don't quite buy what someone else said that " If you are careful, you can remove all signs of the pencil marking from most stamps, with the right eraser, and moving it in one direction only." While you can sometimes remove ALL signs of a pencil marking, you often are left with some traces of lead or at least an impression of the writing in the gum (which while hard to see is still there).

Hi All

I tried a small experiment using an eraser and mint stamps. I used the mint regular stamps from the 19554 series regulars known as the library issue.

While the use of an eraser did remove most of the pencil marks. In a couple of the stamps I could not see any evidence of the pencil marks. Then I used the water marking process. Could not see anything in orientation to the stamp paper. Probably a waste of time watermarking them, but you never know.

Bottom line, nice stamp, I don't use or recommend using a number system to describe stamps. I think the number system works pretty good on coins. Just my way of thinking, I understand the reason numbers are used to describe how a stamp image is centered on the stamp paper.

Stampmaster

Carbon/Graphite no lead. Not into pencil marks

I thought everything said was between revc and James and no one else. Just a little humor with a smiley and nothing else.

I've read this thirteen times and I'm sorry but I still have no idea what it is that you are trying to say? Could you elaborate please?




My name is Jim. A brief flick of your mouse's wheel to the previous messages would have highlighted that data. In any event, my suggestion is still valid.



Jim

Jim see the previous revenuecollector post. He says it better than I do.

As for pencil marks in case this was the confusion.
http://www.differencebetween.net/sc...-and-carbon/

The funny thing is that the PSE will decide how much it is worth not collectors. Probably that is why PSE claims "grading matters". LOL

PSE will only decide what grade to give it. Collectors will decide exactly how foolish they are willing to be based on the grade PSE gives it.

OK Jim, yes the one direction part is critical in minimizing the chance of damage, but while the right eraser can remove all of some pencil marks, it will not remove all. It can not remove pencil mark dents and I've seen cases where while it removed most of the pencil graphite, some of the graphite got into the tiny cracks in the gum and no eraser can get that out.

Thanks for your replies everyone. So if the pencil graphite would go into the gum cracks of a stamp would it be bad to use it for searching for grills in a mint stamp? I know it is just dust and you can blow the dust away and wash it if it is an used stamp but what do you think about a mint stamp with a grill? You think it may ruin the stamp? If all of it will not come off and you can't wash it because of being mint and possibly getting into the gum/glue cracks?

Newby

There is probably a product available that does exactly what you're looking for: a non-permanent dust that can be applied to a surface without needing water or any other fluid to remove it when done.

I suggest doing some research into what the law enforcement guys use to check for fingerprints on various materials.

Jim