Need Help Indentify Grill Markings

Question is this what E grill looks like?

Hi oldstuff, do you have a scanner?

Suggest you provide scan of the front and reverse side of the stamp in question.

Stampmaster

The picture is sort o blurry, but I count 14 x 16.

Peter

My guess...

Hi, I like your way to determine, creative!

Top drawer effort!

Stampmaster

Don, I agree with you. But I can only see a very dim outline of the top row due to the bad picture.

Peter

Agreed, it's an E grill.

Peter, it's not the scan. The top row is typically partial for E grills, as noted by experts here on the board.

This is picture of the grill markings from the original picture posted on 7/3 the A 24 Franklin after I removed it from cover.
Thanks

The horizontal partial rows indicate an E grill. A Z grill can have vertical partial rows.

Making a mess out of the reverse really wasn't necessary, in my opinion. The grill was clearly visible without all that. The row of half points at the top is not to be counted as a row of full grill points, so your grill measures 14x16 not 14x17. Either way it is still an E-grill.

One reason it might have been better to leave this on cover concerns the perforations. On cover, particularly if tied, there is less likelihood of challenging their authenticity. As it is, there is only about a $100 decrease in value by removing it from cover. But it looks to me that the grill type could have been determined while still on cover. I hope no one here advised removing it and smearing on the graphite. If you have others like that and the list is not able to tell what you have, before you soak it, you really should have it looked at by someone with more experience at dealing with grills on cover. My 2c.

Collectors should learn and use kinder, less offensive methods to analyze grills.

Tell me that you didn't ruin the cover by removing the stamp from it!