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New Zealand 1s Nestor - Help With Perforation

 
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Posted 09/01/2017   3:40 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add souldjer777 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
Good Afternoon Everyone,

I was hoping I could get some help with the perforation on this New Zealand "Nestor" one shilling stamp please. Scan of stamp was taken at 600 dpi.

New Zealand 1s Nestor 600 dpi - Unknown Perforation:


Thanks
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Posted 09/01/2017   3:55 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi; Did you measure the perfs? Wmk ? perf.11?
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Posted 09/01/2017   4:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
What do you mean by "Nestor"?

Measure the stamp design only width accurately in millimeters,
then we can give you the perforation.
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Sideways WM "Star NZ" #118 I believe in S.C. Just trying to get second opinion on perf.
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Posted 09/01/2017   10:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add 22crows to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Nestor
The Kea (Nestor notabilis) and the Kaka (Nestor meridionalis) are the 2 parrots on the stamp.
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Quote:
Nestor
The Kea (Nestor notabilis) and the Kaka (Nestor meridionalis) are the 2 parrots on the stamp.


Ahhh ! Thanks 22c

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Posted 09/01/2017   11:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Sideways WM "Star NZ" #118 I believe in S.C. Just trying to get second opinion on perf.


Again, measure the stamp design in mm, post back, and we can give you the perf size.
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Posted 09/02/2017   11:11 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add souldjer777 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamp design measure in mm as requested. Thanks.

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Posted 09/02/2017   12:18 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add floortrader to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
It has been 20 years since I worked on New Zealand , if I remember correctly [likely wrong] They were experimenting with paper made of grass which means the paper is harder to perforate because it is softer than wood fibers .
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An old "kiwi" stamp trading partner told me many years ago that a major problem with N.Z. perforations is that the equipment used was "retired" from Australia.
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Posted 09/02/2017   7:16 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Stamp design measure in mm as requested. Thanks.


Thank you.

200 divided by 18 = Your stamp is perf 11.1

Ergo, I make your stamp SG#268 b (Dull Brown Red)
Thick soft, "Pirie Paper"
No Watermark
Perf 11

CV £48 / £6 (1993 catalogue)


Oops, I see you have Wmk SG#43 perhaps.
That would suggest SG#315 November 1902
Brown-Red
Thin hard "Cowan Paper" Wmk 43 sideways.
Same value

Best I can do
Of course, check the details yourself.
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Edited by rod222 - 09/02/2017 7:32 pm
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Posted 09/03/2017   2:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add souldjer777 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks everyone - I appreciate the accurate deductions!
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Posted 09/03/2017   7:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add rod222 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

For the record:

"Cowan paper" is chalk surfaced, white and opaque.
The watermark is usually smaller than the "jones" paper, and is often barely visible.

1907 Redrawn Pictorials : The Kea and the Kaka

(Artistic licence is evident on this stamp, as the two birds would not be seen together, the Kea is found only in the high country, whilst the Kaka is a forest dweller)

The 1907 stamp is reduced in size, originally printed as 120 stamps to the forme, the stamp was reduced in size, as to be printed 240 stamps at once.







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