Help Identifying 2 South Africa Stamps Cat# And Value

I'm trying to identify these two stamps and haven't had much luck. South Africa in my opinion can be very frustrating and I don't have anything to compare to. Please have a look and let me know the catalog numbers and value if you could.

5s Ox Wagon


1d Christmas 1936


Thanks

Have you tried http://stamporld.com ? The first one is a stamp, the second one is a cinderella ( charity stamp ).

Peter

Year 1927 with it's brother!

I don't have time to take a close look, but it could be a Scott 30 or 66.

Good luck!

Thanks perf12! Thanks Petert4522!

If the stamp was 1927 the attached stamp would not be its brother, because the Suid-Afrika is hyphenated.

This site below may frustrate or enlighten you, hopefully the latter. It is certainly worth studying.


http://www.southafricacollector.com...initives.htm

Your second stamp is a charity stamp issued by SANTA (The South African National Tuberculosis Association). These are issued around Christmas each year as a fund raiser.
They are easily identified by the red double-barred cross (also known as the Cross of Lorraine) which is the world wide symbol of the fight against TB.
Clive

Thank you all!

22crows - I visited the S.A. site earlier and the scans of the stamps are all too small for me to try and figure out. I did col nect and Stamp world. They all look the same... My stamp is perf 14 if that helps. I hope the large scan helps as well.

Just bought a used Scott 2016 and nothing has changed; the listings are still as murky as ever for South Africa.

Below is a bad scan of Scott 66:

Note that the top projection/rhino horn is gone from the "A"s in "AFRICA", the bottom of the "U" is rounded off.

So yours is 64a or 65a (English inscription singles). Don't necessarily go by the colors, since these come in shades like all the other issues. Gibbons Commonwealth lumps both of these together, actually, and the general South Africa catalog is no better.

I'm guessing the difference follows what the other later shilling values look like. That is, the shading lines around the borders and in the vignette are distinct square dots in what Scott calls the 1954 printing:

The original 1949 printing has horizontal shading lines that are slightly broken into square dots:

Need more magnification, but I hope you can get the idea.

So yours is a 64a by what I can tell by the scan. Value is like 25c for a single, $15-20 for a horizontal pair, less for a vertical pair. So don't break up pairs to fit in an album.

I really appreciate everyone's help. Thank you hy-brasil.

Better scans - just got one of the USB microscopes, but you should be able to see the difference with a 10x magnifier:

Scott 1954 printing:


original 1949 printing:

PERFECT - Great illustration - Very easy to identify the differences - Thank you hy-brasil!

If you don't mind me asking - what USB microscope did you buy?

I'll be shot for linking, but it was a cheap one (well under $20) I found on ebay, with free shipping besides. Dumb enough to believe that if this was so bad I would step up to one in the $30-50 range, but this does the job nicely for stamps. You get a 640x480px image, good enough for me, though I assume you can take a screenshot also as you can get the live image window to fill the computer screen.

Load the software, plug microscope into the USB port and go. No instructions (of course) but easy to figure out once you (ahem) reset from the laptop cam to the microscope and (ahem) take the lens cap off. I could have adjusted the lighting better (it is adjustable). The scope was placed on top of 3 CD cases for this magnification; putting the lens guard right against the object is for focusing at 1000x. The focus wheel on the scope stays where you set it.

Got too much glare by putting the stamps in a SAFE approval card. Just turn the lighting off and use a strong light from the side if the stamp needs to be kept under plastic.