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Hamton CA Gold Rush Town?

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Posted 09/08/2017   12:09 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kidrootbeer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
fwiw: PSE said (from the pictures you see) that there shouldn't be any problem Certifying it a Genuinely Used when it was supposed to be used cover, and from what they see it appears to be a CA ms pm
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Edited by kidrootbeer - 09/08/2017 12:09 pm
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Posted 09/08/2017   12:11 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Stamps don't need to ge wet to be removed. The stamp was possibly poorly gummed down,sometimes very dry conditions can provoke this.
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Posted 09/08/2017   12:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kidrootbeer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
"Stamps don't need to ge wet to be removed. The stamp was possibly poorly gummed down,sometimes very dry conditions can provoke this"

Honestly, I don't see that; if your concern is that the stamp was moved after ms-ing, then plot it to where you think it should be. It doesn't "work"
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Edited by kidrootbeer - 09/08/2017 12:35 pm
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Posted 09/08/2017   1:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Laura A. Mitts died on 12/18/1863 from these rcords:
http://files.usgwarchives.net/ia/bl...es/m2wpa.txt
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Posted 09/25/2017   6:27 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kidrootbeer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The lovely Karen at the California State Library is researching the few "Hamptons", to discover if one of them is a feasible Town for the postmark
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Posted 09/25/2017   7:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add littleriverphil to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The manuscript postmark Hamilton for Butte County is rated a 5 in the William's book California Town Postmarks 1849-1935
Nice "ms SC 14 on cover"
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Posted 09/25/2017   11:37 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kidrootbeer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yeah... but I doubt it's "Ham(il)ton". The Post Person has obviously written "Hamton Cal" several times.
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Edited by kidrootbeer - 09/25/2017 11:41 pm
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Posted 09/27/2017   06:32 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add stamperix to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Perhaps this is some abbreviation or local speech for "Hangtown" (Placerville)?
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Posted 09/27/2017   07:31 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kidrootbeer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
it's apparently from Wm. Hampton, PM and Ferryman on the Fresno River
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Posted 09/27/2017   10:25 am  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add John Becker to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hamptonville in Fresno County doesn't open until 1881, more than 25 years after this cover was sent. With all due respect to the reply you received from Ms Paige which you quote in another thread, she does not cite any references or dates in her reply. Rather shoddy history.

I have yet to see any better theory than this being "Hamilton" in an abbreviated form AND with an actual connection to an existing post office in California, rather than the guessing at names. Ironic that Ms Paige wants us to think it might be Hampton without a "p" - a similar shortening?
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Posted 09/27/2017   12:04 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kidrootbeer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I'm not bothered by the lack of the "p", as here on the East Coast both spellings were interchangeable at some points... and the PM's name may very well have been "Hamton" without the P, and it was just added by later scribes.

"ShoddY"? maybe... and maybe it's NOT the town, but just the Postmaster affixing his ms of a backwater landing; but it's a LOT better effort than just surmising what it might be to fit an agenda that doesn't exist...

I have to say: if the appropriation of 'Hamilton' to make "Hamton" was a regular course of action-why haven't we seen any others?
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Edited by kidrootbeer - 09/27/2017 12:19 pm
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maybe it's NOT the town, but just the Postmaster affixing his ms of a backwater landing; but it's a LOT better effort than just surmising what it might be to fit an agenda that doesn't exist


Your post ignores the fact that the postal regulations required the postmaster to postmark the name of the post office on the letter and not the postmaster's name. Show us another letter with with ONLY the postmaster's name and not the name of the post office.
Believe whatever you want, but Hamilton is the likely origin of the letter.
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Posted 09/27/2017   1:13 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add kidrootbeer to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
yeah... and who is going to stop him, regulations or no? He called his place 'Hamton Cal' on his mailed cover(s): he was the PM, after all. Try not to overthink it
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Edited by kidrootbeer - 09/27/2017 1:14 pm
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Posted 09/27/2017   1:48 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply

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who is going to stop him, regulations or no?


Obviously I cannot prove that the postmaster did not write his name instead of the name of the post office. I also cannot prove that a space alien didn't cancel the stamp. As the saying goes "when you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras" Hamilton is the most logical answer because it was actually a post office in existence at the time the letter was likely mailed.
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Posted 09/27/2017   2:24 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add cjpalermo1964 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Ah, a thread in which the original poster asks a question or proposes a thesis, and then pushes back against or rejects every alternative or contrary suggestion that is given, regardless of its plausibility or the value of the information that is contained and the interest which other members have shown. A true classic of this forum.


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