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Why I Inspect All New Covers Under UV Light

 
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Posted 09/07/2017   6:41 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this topic Add SPQR to your friends list Get a Link to this Message
I have made it a rule to inspect every cover that I purchase under UV light. This is a cover that came in the mail yesterday. At first glance I did not see any problems with the cover



A check under UV light instantly revealed a problem - note how the top and bottom margins fluoresce differently than the margin between the stamps. It is hard to take a photo under UV - the difference is much clearer in person



Under magnification it is possible to see that the margins have been added (or the stamps may have been completely rebacked). Note the top margin above the margin between the stamps and the top margin over the left stamp in general. Also note that the bars of the cancel at the bottom of the left stamp do not continue across the margin

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Posted 09/07/2017   6:44 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Dutch US Stamp Collector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
good call and interesting tip
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Posted 09/07/2017   6:58 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
The black smudges in the corners look like they were placed there to mask the fraud.
What are you going too do now that you purchased this cover?Ask
for a refund?
Lot;1889 a cover like yours.
http://www.rumseyauctions.com/aucti...ter/25/84/20

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Posted 09/07/2017   7:21 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add SPQR to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Hi perf12 - yes the smudges are covering the repair. I am returning the cover for a refund.
The Rumsey cover you posted is a beauty - great color - good margins
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Posted 09/07/2017   8:10 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add perf12 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
This stamp has been keeping me busy! In fact it is a very poor specimen.
Certain things are not right with it.The corner numeral exterior frame line was added: box (1).Comparing corner box (2) it is obvious.So it is also a partial forgery.


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Posted 09/07/2017   8:15 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add redwoodrandy to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Illuminating and scary. Good showing.
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Posted 09/07/2017   8:23 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add StampsInWV3 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
I am in shock. I would never do that to anyone.
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Posted 09/07/2017   8:31 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add txstamp to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Good catch. Those two blurry cancels really don't look right. I suspect there is probably a partial fingerprint in at least the lower right blob.

Those pence-issue covers definitely have to be looked at with a careful eye. I really like them - enough to where I bought one myself for fun, but I'd probably pass on about 5-10 (or more) for every one that I'd consider, for reasons such as this.
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Posted 09/07/2017   8:33 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
In my opinion just from enlarging your photo this stamp does appear altered or repaired. Some key things to consider when buying a stamp on cover is in smears, added or out of place cancels. If this was not on cover I am sure the attempted repair would clearly show up. In this case as you pointed out the repair does not match such as the item you circle numbered 1. Pretty common way to hide damage is to add more cancel.

This one didn't need any high tech to spot it. But then again I knew what to look for.

Good luck

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Posted 09/07/2017   8:38 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Lol don't be in shock people have been doing this for over 100 years.

If you want to see what truly an be done to a stamp Che k out the following web site, I know 99% of the people would never notice these unless they sent them to be expertise.

http://home.golden.net/~hanssitt/SR....html#Ethics
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Posted 09/07/2017   8:52 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Partime to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
A very long, detailed discussion about the merits of restoration was covered in this older thread, including comments from FCI Restoration. A good read

https://goscf.com/t/43694#43694
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Posted 09/08/2017   7:50 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Hal to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Excellent post!

Thank you!
Hal
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Posted 09/08/2017   8:43 pm  Show Profile Check revenuecollector's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add revenuecollector to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
From mkfarm's link (emphasis mine):


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Due to a difference in our views, we are no longer members of the APS. The reason being, that the APS insists that repaired, restored or altered stamps are to be identified with indelible ink. We, however, are of the opinion that we spend a great deal of time and effort to restore a stamp's appearances and are not prepared to deface these items with indelible ink unless the customer, (whose property these stamps are), so wishes. It was for this reason that we were 'expelled'.


Is that actually the APS's position, that any repaired stamp must be indelibly marked? I find that hard to believe. Furthermore, if that really is their policy, the vast majority of show dealers I have ever dealt with need to be expelled from the APS as well, because very rarely (if ever) do I see repaired/restored stamps or covers indelibly marked, and if so, it is an immediate negative with respect to marketability.

I question whether the facts in that link are accurate...
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Posted 09/08/2017   9:18 pm  Show Profile Check sinclair2010's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add sinclair2010 to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Great thread but that repair is quite detectable without the aid of UV light.
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Posted 09/08/2017   9:29 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add Classic Coins to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Alarming, SPQR! Thanks for showing it.
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Posted 09/12/2017   12:53 pm  Show Profile Bookmark this reply Add thepackrat to your friends list  Get a Link to this Reply
Wow great info here. Another reason for me to get an UV light.
Robert
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